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Roman slavery was not based on "race" in the modern sense. Slaves were drawn from all over Europe and the Mediterranean, including Celts, Germans, Thracians, Greeks, Carthaginians, and black Africans, usually called "Ethiopians" in Greek and Latin sources. By the 1st century BC, custom precluded the enslavement of Roman citizens and Italians living in Gallia Cisalpina, but previously many southern and central Italians had been enslaved after defeat.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by OneL0ve
You started your post explaining that labels of political affiliations are just that, then end up denigrating all but liberals.
Do you see that?
Originally posted by olaru12
reply to post by ButterCookie
You just spit on the graves of the white liberals that were murdered for their activities with civil rights movement.
See any white conservatives in the martyrs of the civil rights movement???
edit on 12-5-2013 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ButterCookie
Technically, can one truly say they are not racist if they support the main ideologies of a racist party?
Originally posted by OneL0ve
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Please quote me on that.
I did not target any group, nor did I set out to defend all liberals. But then again, you only see what you look for. So if me saying that I am a libertarian triggered some sort of bell in your heart that yelled, "must disagree!" then I am sorry for you.
To make a thread accusing most liberals of being racist is not only absurd, but it is clear evidence that you do not get out much (I state this confidently based on my observations of your blatant ignorance and placement of blame towards an entire group of people just because your friend who claims to be liberal said something you did not agree with).
The civil rights movement, once a controversial left-wing fringe, has grown deeply embedded into the fabric of our national story. This is a salutary development, but a problematic one for conservatives, who are the direct political descendants of (and, in the case of some of the older members of the movement, the exact same people as) the strident opponents of the civil rights movement. It has thus become necessary for conservatives to craft an alternative story, one that absolves their own ideology of any guilt. The right has dutifully set itself to its task, circulating its convoluted version of history, honing it to the point where it can be repeated by any defensive College Republican in his dorm room. Kevin Williamson’s cover story in National Review is the latest version of what is rapidly congealing into conservatism’s revisionist dogma.
The mainstream, and correct, history of the politics of civil rights is as follows. Southern white supremacy operated out of the Democratic Party beginning in the nineteenth century, but the party began attracting northern liberals, including African-Americans, into an ideologically cumbersome coalition. Over time the liberals prevailed, forcing the Democratic Party to support civil rights, and driving conservative (and especially southern) whites out, where they realigned with the Republican Party.
The minority citizens of this country have just as much of a say and right to freedom as you and I. To them, a republican system would be considered corrupt.
Originally posted by openlocks
All of us, except for the super wealthy and politically powerful, should be anarchist's at heart and scientific at mind. Learning the truth is always more important than dictating the "truth".
"The liberals and conservatives and Libertarians who lament totalitarianism are phoneys and hypocrites. . . You find the same sort of hierarchy and discipline in an office or factory as you do in a prison or a monastery. . . A worker is a part-time slave. The boss says when to show up, when to leave, and what to do in the meantime. He tells you how much work to do and how fast. He is free to carry his control to humiliating extremes, regulating, if he feels like it, the clothes you wear or how often you go to the bathroom. With a few exceptions he can fire you for any reason, or no reason. He has you spied on by snitches and supervisors, he amasses a dossier on every employee. Talking back is called 'insubordination,' just as if a worker is a naughty child, and it not only gets you fired, it disqualifies you for unemployment compensation. . .The demeaning system of domination I've described rules over half the waking hours of a majority of women and the vast majority of men for decades, for most of their lifespans. For certain purposes it's not too misleading to call our system democracy or capitalism or -- better still -- industrialism, but its real names are factory fascism and office oligarchy. Anybody who says these people are 'free' is lying or stupid." Bob Black "The Abolition of Work"