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posted on Jun, 7 2005 @ 09:12 PM
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seriously, America and its Allies in Europe are going after IRAN. We can not let them hi-jack the worlds oil supply. They support Terrorists, and are a major problem with the insurgency in IRAQ.

Now they are going to have NUCLEAR BOMBS with Ballistic Missiles !?!

We can not allow that coutry to get the bomb, we might not be the most responsible nation, but these guys ... with the bomb? That would be an even worse war! Because they would convince OPEC to change its currency to the EURO ... or maybe the CHINESE $$$ ??? Then our economy would crash!

I expect their to be a flare up in IRAN, within the next year ... And please god, do not let the Israelis get involved. America and Europe can handle a war against IRAN ... even if RUSSIA wants to supply them with a Nuclear Reactor, they will not go to war to save IRAN ... they would know better than that.

SO ... Its America and England and Poland ... again,
Verses. IRAN ... a country right in the middle of where our troops are stationed... No Problem!

IRAN is located in between IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN. We can beat them, they can't fight a 2 front war.

However, to fight another war, we need to institute the draft... come on we all signed the card when we turned 18. Why do you think they made us sign the card... do you think it is because one day they would use it against us?

June 2006 is when i think The Allies will attack.


The Draft is Coming ... but not until February 2007.
When America Realizes The Mess it Created in the Muslim World. It turns into a Holy War.

June 2006 is when i think The Allies will attack.




posted on Jun, 7 2005 @ 10:30 PM
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I think you have your years mixed up.
It has to be THIS month , THIS June, and NO later, on the timetable .
Enquiring minds have to know, and you got it here from a former ----------.
Look toward the 19th.



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 12:02 AM
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come on we all signed the card when we turned 18. Why do you think they made us sign the card... do you think it is because one day they would use it against us?


You act as if registering with the draft board is a new thing...

The selective service act has been around since 1917, way before the war on terrorism.



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 12:42 AM
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There is in fact a draft going on already, in the form of involuntary entensions of tours of duty. It is a more clever and devious version of a draft, but a draft nonetheless.



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 10:59 PM
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Well if we are going to invade Iran by land then they need to draft now and start training. They are not going to get in a land war with Iran they will just bomb the hell out of them. Then hand the country over to some appointed good guy Muslim that will give them freedom. Then the populace will over throw the new government and install yet another Muslim radical. I just love Arab mentality they like oppressive governments and believe in Alah even thou Alah continually lets the infidels had them their own ass every war. Oh except for Saladin how many years ago was that? Oh yes and they will start drafting soon they have no choice. They ruined the economy to try and get more recruits that’s not working so they have to draft soon.



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 11:23 PM
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Ya know, people really don't understand politics and economics here on ATS it seems.

With people screaming "Oh hes the antichrist!" and things like, "he was just waiting 'til he was re-elected!", it seems to me that people need to learn instead of falling asleep in class all the time


Ya know why? Because BUSH IS NOT A DICTATOR. He DOES NOT have ultimate control of the United States, despite what all your paranoid, lazy minds may think. But the truth is, he doesn't have ultimate control.

Here's the facts:

If the military wants to recruit, they'll raise benefits, pay, etc. Dealing with low-morale recruits is just not fun for them, so don't count on a draft.

Reinstating a draft that has been gone for years is not good politics. Wait, did I say politics? Yes, I did! Bush CAN be taken out and stopped! Wow! I said it?! He is not some dictator despite what you all think.

Finally, the U.S. will NOT be invading Iran, I repeat, NOT invading Iran. And you can quote me on that.

Why? Because the U.S. is not some "empire-esque" country that invades when it pleases.
Truth is, there WERE intel failures regarding Iraq, (Ie leading to a messy war that followed).

The U.S. is NOT stretched guys! We have 1.7 million + soldiers. Only 160,000 are in Iraq, and the removal of troops will soon begin. It has already been announced.

Hate to burst all your bubbles. Intellectual laziness leads to ignorance


-wD



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
May 2005 or the next fake terror attack. Bush is the AntiChrist

[edit on 3-11-2004 by DiRtYDeViL]


Ya, right affter they attack with the nukes Russia lost we wont care who we draft...
2005-2006.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 12:21 AM
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Dick Cheney said that the war in Iraq will be over by 2009, but I dont see how we can possably destroy all terror (ist activity)!

No matter what we do, New World Order? Will that help?



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 09:19 AM
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This goes to show just how desperate the military is for trained specialist. The article states $120,000 tax free signing bonus. That is alot of money for just one person. How much worse will it have to get before the government starts a selective draft?


Wheat and several of his colleagues here were approached by a Navy recruiter who promised a “tax-free $120,000 bonus” if they agreed to sign on as medical consultants with a Marine Corps unit in Iraq.

Article

The article also states that regular army are getting 20,000 to 70,000 to re-enlist after there 4 year commitments are up. It is my opinion htat if we do not get out of Iraq we will have a selective draft.
[edit on 10-6-2005 by cryptorsa1001]

[edit on 10-6-2005 by cryptorsa1001]



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 10:32 AM
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Are you positive about that 20,000-70,000 for re-inlisting after 4 years?

As it stands now, there is no such thing as a 4 year enlistment...

when you sign the dotted line you sign yourself up for 8 years (regardless of what branch...) Most of the time you do 4 years active duty, and 4 year individual ready reserve...

If you're in the IRR they can call you back to active duty at any time, just like that.

[edit on 6/10/05 by microcosm]



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 01:09 PM
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For instance, the Army is currently offering a $20,000 bonus to those who agree to re-enlist after their first four year tour is up.


The above is from the article I listed in my previous post. I never served in the Army so all I can do is quote from the article.



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 08:57 PM
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The creative solution is that illegal aliens that enlist in the military will be given a waiver and become US citizens after service.

It fits with Washington's desire for maximum illegal immigration, for corporate slave labor.

It gets rid of recruitment shortfalls without having to institute the draft on American citizens.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by slank
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The creative solution is that illegal aliens that enlist in the military will be given a waiver and become US citizens after service..



i like this idea! So all of the illegals will be training to fight against our enemies...and the ones that survive will get full citizenship!

Thats great! Why didn't i think of that?

But we have to use the illegals that ARE ALREADY in the country... and close off our borders so no more get it. we already have a big illegal problem!



posted on Jun, 11 2005 @ 12:06 AM
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In as much as I think that we will end up fighting IRAN in the near future
Draft - Bible code

The thing is that the whole middle east mess is about Oil and as long as the US of A is reliant on them for Oil we will be trying to take it from them by any means necassary.

Terrorism is/was only an excuse to Take away our rights for the better good, as well as control us. - It will remain until the US of A learns to mind it's own business.

The US Should become isolationistic until it has straightened out it's own messs at home before getting involved pushing the rest of the world around.



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 06:28 PM
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I was just reading about Bush saying that he will stand against China if they attack Taiwan for seeking independence due to some previous agreement. Does anyone know how serious the situation is between Taiwan and China? This could also be an oppotunity for China to dethrone the US and take over as the worlds Super Power. If something does happen Bush will have no choice but to call for the draft. Without using nukes i don't see the possibility of winning a war against China.



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 06:49 PM
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it can't happen...can it? i thought we learnt that lesson after world war one and two...

maybe in the last 100 years we haven't learnt that lesson. innocent lives should not be needlessly wasted to learn it again.

some say there's pride, honour and so on by going to war in iraq whether you're in the army or in a draft. where's the pride and honour? is the pride knowing you fought for your country?...what was the reason you fought for your country...oh wait, you don't even know. is the honour at your funeral, in a tear, in sadness, ashes to ashes, dust to dust...is that honour? bull#.



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by WeBDeviL
Hate to burst all your bubbles. Intellectual laziness leads to ignorance


-wD


webDevil, replace deny ignorance with deny intellectual laziness.
Good thinking, man!



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
In all honesty let?s look at the facts. Bush usually does the exact opposite of what he says. Bush stated that there will be no draft under his presidency. So guess what you can guarantee there will be!


In all honesty, you are totally wrong. The thing that actually pisses you lefties off is that Bush does exactly what he says. You, of course, are not used to that so it throws you off. I know, I know, you would much prefer the Clintons (I did not have sexual relations with that woman) and Kerrys (I'm Irish) of the world - where saying one thing and doing the opposite is standard operating procedure.



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by Rasputin13
I'm really getting sick of all this liberal fear mongering. To me, its no different than when you guys go into nursing homes and tell the elderly that the Republicans are going to take away their social security benefits. You guys can't win in the voting booths or in the realm of ideas, so you have to resort to scare tactics. It's really pathetic but even more surprising that it actually works. Even after decades of you guys scaring our most vulnerable and none of it actually coming true, it's a wonder that anyone still believes the nonsense you left-wing radicals spew!

Anyone who says there is an impending draft is either guessing or flat-out lying. Either way, they are wrong. Don't believe the hype! Unless we are attacked by another country there is no need for a draft, regardless of a decrease in military recruiting. Don't believe the propaganda from the tulip walkers!


Rasputin, there you go again making such perfect sense that I don't understand why this issue is still even being discussed (ad naseum).



posted on Jun, 14 2005 @ 02:14 AM
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centurion1211 you are quite the extremist Republican. You say you have these great morals but yet you support a satanist. Yes Bush is a satanist, he goes to Bohemian grove and worships statues and takes part in satanic rituals, i thought only satanists did that. I don't know of any Christians with good morals that take part in a ceremony called the burning of care (they burn a wooden child). Which means that they don't give a # about nothing bad that they do.

Bush is one of the worst presidents/rulers this world has seen. I think the reason why people think he is God is because they all received coupons for a free wax while they were getting their brains washed.

I am neither a democrat nor a republican, i like some D's and i like some R's but i do not whore myself to one party. The things that have come out of the mouths of some of your republican "Gods" is of the most fowl statements i have ever heard in my life but you still worship them.

When did Liberal become a bad word, Liberals are people who care about your rights and try and help the world. Extremist right wing republicans destroy all our basic rights, i have no civil liberties in this country all because of the right wing republicans. Why can't people just be normal? I can spot an extreme Republican a mile a way because all they do is grin from ear to ear (like centurion1211) because they know they are talking a load of bull and they don't give a #. There is seriously something wrong with some Republicans in this country, just look at them when they talk they are so unique from everyone else it is weird. They must have chips in their brain because their actions defy all logic.

Every time they need to cover up something in the media they send out all their drones and all you hear for the next week is the same statements over and over and over and over and over again. They even openly admit that one of their strategies is to tell lies enough times so that they become fact in the eye of the people. How anyone can support them is something i will never understand, i just hope that one day they will realize what they have done. I feel sorry for you centurion1211, i truly do.

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