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MSNBC Host: Your Kids Belong to the Collective

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posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by Morgenstern89

Originally posted by Bioshock

This is not just some random woman, this person is a MSNBC reporter. She has the eyes and ears of the nation. . . . but this is mainstream media. And honestly, what credibility does the conspiracy theory community have as it stands? We're constantly mocked and ridiculed by the media as it is. There is no credibility, there is only fact.



An MSNBC reporter, sure, but she's still just some lady. They are just talking heads, ultimately what they say doesn't mean anything - especially today when people can check facts for themselves. The person reporting is irrelevant, the story is what matters.


OH REALLY? Soooooooooooo . . . [color=6699FF]all the many $billions spent on

1. advertising.
2. military psy-ops and propaganda
3. globalist propaganda and mass brain-washing

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are all [color=669966]WASTED?
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[can't find a sufficiently incredulous emoticon]




And yet there is a bar code and Twitter/Facebook code on everything we buy. What was the biblical statement? You can not buy or sell without the mark of the beast? If we're going just by scripture, we're already well done that path buddy.





Originally posted by Morgenstern89
That means nothing. Who cares if there's a bar code on something we buy? My point is that we aren't being forced like cattle into camps and being treated like animals. No one is forcing anyone to use Facebook or Twitter, either.

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Sounds like a Jew in Austria commenting to another Jew about Hitler's tyrannical manipulations of the populace just before being herded into a cattle car for Dachau. Dream on. Wake up and smell the gas. Good grief. Where do you think we are on the continuum to utter tyranny? What side are you on?



The MSM doesn't spin things out of control? What about the liberal media refusing to even talk about Fast and Furious? Fox News spins things out of control on a daily basis. What about Benghazi? The MSM is a thousands folds worse than Alex Jones. Does the man push things to the extreme? Yes, but for very good reason. Historically speaking, what Alex Jones talks about is the NORM for our species. Peace and FREEDOM is a very rare thing when it comes to humanity.



ABSOLUTELY INDEED.



The "Liberal Media" not reporting on FAF is an example of the news being sanitized, not being blown out of proportion. I won't argue, it was definitely an example of poor reporting. Fox news does blow things out of proportion, I'll give you that, but I hardly consider them mainstream anymore.


"Liberal Media" ???


SANITIZED? As in removing the germs and trash?
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Good grief.

From the link:

twoday.net...



22. "In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. "An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers." U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 191722. "In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. "An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers." U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917


Fox News is the last shred of any hint of a main stream media that offers even the faint smell of an alternative perspective remotely in the same galactic cluster as THE TRUTH. And THEY HAVE to be wholly used by the oligarchy as well. Murdoch is not an outsider.
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to be continued



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by Morgenstern89

I still don't understand how what AJ does is good. It'd be one thing if he was extreme in his reporting methods in an effort to show people the truth, but he just shows them benign stories with a sinister slant. -That- is what I take issue with most of all.

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I disagree with your description of what he does.
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And, I'm fairly personally convinced that he'd report more horrific stuff if he thought he could get away with it and stay alive.
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It appears that NO AMOUNT OF warming the frog's bucket of water LEAD-UP to UTTER TYRANNY would be the least bit disturbing to you.
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Having studied it for so long, it appears to me that we are 90-97+% of the way to utter tyranny worse than Hitler's. Most of the controls and puzzle pieces are mostly in place. More are being consolidated and put in place by the week if not the day.
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[color=669966]Nothing here.
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[color=669966]Move along.
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[color=669966]Take your Somma.
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[color=669966]Stop trying to evade the cameras.
[color=669966]Big Brother is your friend.
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[color=669966]Report all dangerous finger nail clippers.
[color=669966]Report all terrorists who fail to applaud and smile toward Big Brother.
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[color=669966]Report all terrorist Pentecostal Christians who believe in the 2nd Coming.
[color=669966]Report all Constitutionalists.
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[color=669966]Report all who call for a return to the Bill of Rights.
[color=669966]Report all Bible-thumpers.
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[color=669966]Report all survivalists.
[color=669966]Report all who drive gas guzzlers.
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[color=669966]Report all home schoolers.
[color=669966]Report all hunters.
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[color=669966]Report all gardeners.
[color=669966]Report all hoarders.
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[color=669966]Report all flag wavers.
[color=669966]Report all unlobotomized veterans.
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[color=669966]Report all who fail to kowtow to the image of Big Brother.
[color=669966]Report all Logan's Run watchers.
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[color=669966]Report all George Orwell readers.
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[color=669966]Report all who pray before meals.
[color=669966]Report all who refuse to use FB.

[color=669966]Report all who refuse to attend Big Brother self-criticism groups.
[color=669966]Report all non-officials who look well fed.

[color=669966]Report all who think they are equal to those who are truly more equal.
[color=669966]Report all who still appear to know how to think or which end is up.




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edit on 9/4/2013 by BO XIAN because: spelling typo and fix tags

edit on 9/4/2013 by BO XIAN because: spacing



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
[color=6699FF]This is exactly what John Dewey, the secular humanist father of modern education, believed, that the children belong to the State and exist for the State, and the State has the right to seize all power and control from the parents. This is definitely the mindset of Progressives and other Statists. This is what Hillary meant when she wrote, "It Takes A Village". These people believe they have more right to determine how a child grows up than his own parents, and these Elites feel they have a right to speak for the entire collective. Of course they are also the programmers and gatekeepers of the UN One World Govt and UN Agenda 21.

[color=669966]The Common Core educational program being put in place by the current admin is proof that they feel they have a right to run things and that parents have no right to even know what their children are being taught. This is diabolical stuff.

I am just amazed at how many people on this site buy into the collective philosophy. How sad.

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ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
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Folks who have not read AT LEAST 25% of the quotes in their own words here . . . need to do so for their own sake and the sake of those they love . . . while they are still available . . .

twoday.net...
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I'm increasingly convinced that the rabidly hostile to the truth are most likely paid shills. I've resisted that conclusion for a long time. It's becoming difficult to even pretend otherwise at this point.

I don't know where the line is . . . clearly some folks are just wishful thinkers whistling by the grave yard and pretending all is well though they know in their gut that's the furthest thing from THE TRUTH.

We have survivors from Hitler's Germany telling us aplenty how we are on the brink just like they were in the early years. Yet truth tellers are still mocked and derided and called shrill and paranoid etc.

May God have mercy on such cluelessness.
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edit on 9/4/2013 by BO XIAN because: fix tag



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 05:28 AM
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I still think that weather or not they decide to take the kids has more to do with how much money they can get out of them in child support, court fees, counseling, ect.

I could make a list a mile long of kids that were neglected ect that well, ya, social service would come check them out, but the kids stayed with the parents. one dad even fell asleep with a lit pipe, burnt down the apartment building practically a few days before christmas. and they blamed it on one of the kids....social service were pretty sure what had happened, but they just let the lie go on . The one kid was taken, out of about four and placed a little while in a foster home.

Then there's the working parents who were doing all they could do, but the mom had something wrong with her, started passing out. while one of those episodes, on of the kids set a fire in his bedroom. She was seeking an answer to the problem, under a doctor's care, dad was at work when this happen, and they had no one to ask to help. Did social service offer her assistance in that area, nope, zoom, the kids were gone into a fostor home, the parents were made to spend about a year in counseling and jumping through a myriad of hoops to get them back.

What was the difference in these two situations?? well the only one I can see was that the first family had no income, the state was already supporting them. the second, well, they were holding thier own, they had money that could be taken!!!


I don't think it has much to do with the "welfare of the kids" or liberal ideology even. It has to do with $$$$$ and well, what I still say was up to recently a hidden agenda of wiping out those families that are still managing to be holding their own.. And, I dare say they've about succeeded. If they can get enough of us relying on those gov't handouts, content to work those low paying, can't live on jobs, well, they can worry about cutting the benefits down to something they see as more appropriate without much hassle.... and then, we can be competitive with those emerging markets out there!!! and living in about the same state as the workers in those countries also.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 05:29 AM
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Last night I told my 17 year old daughter what this MSNBC person said ... that she belongs to the collective (government). She shook her head in disgust and said "I belong to myself".



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy
 





Let me explain: your child, as you did, and all children do, undergoes socialization. Community is the foundation for socialization. Your child is a product of his or her community/culture.


The child is also a product of his parents influence. The Elites know this, and have been using values clarification for decades to strip the children of their parent's values and replace them with the values the State desires. Mostly it's Progressive agendas being pushed. But in general it is globalism and the global community.

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I no longer use "Progressive" without calling it what it is--Regressives--all the way back to Babylon. Mostly I just try to use "Regressives" without explanation unless I'm asked.
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The oligarchy's media have been great at engineering a DAFFYNITIONARY

--[color=669966]INFANTICIDE
= CHOICE
--[color=669966]REGRESSIVE = PROGRESSIVE
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--[color=669966]FULL COURT PRESS CULTURE WAR = POLITICAL CORRECT PEACE & SERENITY
--[color=669966]ISLAM = the RELIGION OF PEACE vs the more accurate of bloody pieces
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--[color=669966]TRUTH TELLING = HATE SPEECH
--[color=669966]DRACONIAN GENETIC MANIPULATION = IMPROVING THE SPECIES
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--[color=669966]DEATH GENES DESTROYING BIODIVERSITY & FAMILY FARMERS = PROGRESS
--[color=669966]PROPERTY CONFISCATION WITHOUT WARRANT = SAFETY
. . . .



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 05:38 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Haha. All the tinfoil hats misquoting this lady. She said kids belong to communities... Not "the state"...


Delusions are difficult :-)

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I gather you are . . . unaware . . . to put it politely . . .

of the code words the oligarchy has been using to move their war on traditional values and culture forward by leaps and bounds. .

Please keep up. It make dialogue more possible.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 05:41 AM
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I'm still somewhat shocked at such a brazenly revisionist description of multiple sourced historic narratives.

Crowley . . . a benign jerk-off.

Riiiiiiiiiight.

BTW, I have this old pontoon bridge to Hawaii I'd like to sell.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 05:43 AM
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She's probably already too old to be trusted or tolerated by the globalist 'collective.'

All useless eaters and those 'unable to fit' into the NWO are to be exterminated.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by Bioshock


This is the liberal mindset. Your kids are not your kids. No, they belong to the state. Much like Hitler used to think. You, as an American citizen, are not even entitled to the children that you produce. No, the state OWNS your kids now.

So who here doesn't see the historical reference to Nazi Germany through the eyes of the brainwashed nanny state liberal? Because honestly, it's becoming more and more clear every damn day.

I wonder, why was that both parents had to work again? Oh right, so the state could raise your kids.

Real change, yes he did.

www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


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Teach the American people how to think. It may or may not work.

Secular Progressive Agenda: Central planning infrastructure. Intimidation, control,
confiscation of parental rights. Re-writing the laws, one agency at a time.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 07:49 AM
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The Obama Administration also fears the Drudge Report.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 07:52 AM
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I think it's pretty obvious by now that we are someone's domesticated species. We are not free - far from it. We are not even capable of surviving in out natural habitat anymore. Set us free, and most of us would perish.

So what if whoever owns us also owns our children. Nothing new here...



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by dawnstar
I still think that weather or not they decide to take the kids has more to do with how much money they can get out of them in child support, court fees, counseling, ect.


That has a lot to do with their decision making. The economy always comes first. Even before our health.

As a friend said to me once about how they decide who to send to prison...

"What's that? You're unemployed? Well, you're currently costing us around $200 per week, but if we put you in prison, we can make $100 per week off you..."



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 09:17 AM
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Yeah, this open bragging by the Marxist about the collective in America is getting more and more air time.

The American Communist Party has become more and more emboldened by their success in getting Communists elected to political office.....weren't we warned a long time ago that Communism will seep into the American fabric from within?

Now the Marxists are claiming open bragging rights about their collectives.

Well, parents. Don't say you haven't been warned by the Marxists themselves.

Alas, there will always be those parents who don't care enough about their children to do something to save them. It's the shame of socialism in America.

Parents...you've been warned...and you've been reminded......those parents who do care about their children will obviously take the steps to save their children from the collective.

RESISTANCE IS NOT FUTILE! NOT YET, AT LEAST.....NOT FOR EVERYONE.........



For months, Glenn has been warning that the progressives would eventually just stop hiding their agenda and just come out and admit their radical goals. Well, thanks to MSNBC the progressive agenda became exposed more to the mainstream. It’s not a parody and it’s not a sketch: Melissa Harris-Perry actually said in an approved promo for the network that children don’t belong to their families, they belong to the collective.

www.glennbeck.com... 08_211185&utm_content=5146428&utm_term=_211185_211192



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by dawnstar
I still think that weather or not they decide to take the kids has more to do with how much money they can get out of them in child support, court fees, counseling, ect.


That has a lot to do with their decision making. The economy always comes first. Even before our health.

As a friend said to me once about how they decide who to send to prison...

"What's that? You're unemployed? Well, you're currently costing us around $200 per week, but if we put you in prison, we can make $100 per week off you..."



The prison system is yet another collective.

Unfortunately, many children become indoctrinated into the collective mind meld after twelve years of public school so-called education.

When they go out into the real world, they can't escape the collective mentality. It's as though many of them have been programmed for the collective of the prison system.

I can remember when the wise used to instruct children to stay in school Now those with any common sense and decency in their bones tell children to get OUT of the collective of the public school system.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 09:54 AM
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Oh...oh....this five year old disrupted the COLLECTIVE!!!

Hey, c'mon. Admit it. When you were in school, didn't you get a Mohawk haircut at some time in your life?

C'mon....didn't you disrupt the COLLECTIVE at least once in your school years??



When 5-year-old Ethan Clos showed up at school with a short, spiky mohawk last week, his fellow kindergarteners thought it was cool. But administrators at Reid Primary and Middle School in Springfield, Ohio, deemed the edgy cut too disruptive, and ordered him home until he adopted a tamer style.

shine.yahoo.com...



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 09:58 AM
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If you child has a social security number they no longer are you children. They become the property of the state.

Notice the Amish don't get this kind of crap pulled on them. No social security numbers, the state has no hold over them.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 10:42 AM
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You -seriously- believe that a well known magician was able to just commit murders left and right without any consequences? What are your sources of proof? No Jesus sites or fly by night conspiracy websites either, please.

Back in those days talking about sex and masturbation was more taboo than violence, and he ran into issues when speaking about sex acts in his books. He went for the shock value, and from what I understand, enjoyed the fact that most people weren't hip to what he was talking about.



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by VforVendettea
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If you child has a social security number they no longer are you children. They become the property of the state.

Notice the Amish don't get this kind of crap pulled on them. No social security numbers, the state has no hold over them.


Could someone from the socialist collective explain to us....in your minds....what is the difference between the collective and the New World Order.

I mean, what a socialist thinks is the difference?

As for the Amish...or any other religious group.....both the collective and the New World Order despise religion. Not that I like to mention the collective and the New World Order as two different entities. But until we can get a discussion going on the differences...the perceived or supposed differences....between the collective and the New World Order, so it goes.

Religion is the opiate of the masses? Well, only if they can get a single collective religion to fit the New World Order singularity.

So...if the Amish don't have social security numbers...they don't pay social security taxes? They didn't fall for that Ponzi Scheme? " Self-employed Amish do not pay Social Security tax. Those employed by non- Amish employers do pay Social Security tax."

Though there is a lot of argument whether the Amish have social security numbers...or they threw away their social security cards....or they don't tell anyone in the outside world when a baby is born....or what?



posted on Apr, 9 2013 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Morgenstern89
reply to post by BO XIAN
 



You -seriously- believe that a well known magician was able to just commit murders left and right without any consequences? What are your sources of proof? No Jesus sites or fly by night conspiracy websites either, please.

Back in those days talking about sex and masturbation was more taboo than violence, and he ran into issues when speaking about sex acts in his books. He went for the shock value, and from what I understand, enjoyed the fact that most people weren't hip to what he was talking about.



All I can say is that a lot of people claim to be atheists because they don't believe an invisible being will save them.

Yet they are waiting for an invisible bureaucratic being somewhere in the government to save them?

I suppose it's all in the wording. One group is a religion. The other group is a government. Somehow in many people's minds there are vast differences.

Me? And a lot of other intelligent people like myself are thinking that it is easy to fool a lot of the people a lot of the time.



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