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MSNBC Host: Your Kids Belong to the Collective

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posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by coltcall

Originally posted by mac420
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Don't blame the collective, blame the bankers and corrupt politicians that make life hard for people to advance.


Always blame the successful for the plight of the unsuccessful. It's the motto of the collective.

Go down the list of the successful until hitting upon someone or something that can be blamed for the collective's mistakes.

Hmmmmm.....and socialists wonder why the rut they are in keeps getting deeper and deeper. Cause a hole gets bigger the more the socialist takes out of it.


There is a difference between being successful and being a criminal...that's why we have laws against fraud and loansharking...at least for the "collective"...your new here, and maybe before you come in here and basically call other members that have worked hard all thier lives "losers" because we are defending the rights of ourselves, our children and our Countries....you should know the facts.

Oh...and NO...we can't just sue the government ( Monsanto )...Hell......anyone of us can be thrown in jail with no bail, trial or lawyer under the NDAA...open your eyes..or are you one of those people that doesn't have to play by the "rules" the rest of us have to?



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 04:24 PM
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Coming from a woman who calls unborn babies "things", I doubt she has the human-ness to see that children are anything other than "things" that belong to a "thing".


HARRIS-PERRY: So my only worry about that, is because I feel like a lot, I mean, having an 11-year-old, I do a lot of kids reading that sort of thing. But I feel like we do that, but it`s always about private morality, right? It feels sort of like to the extent that we talk about morality in the public sphere, we talk about private morality, who you should and shouldn't sleep with, how you should or should not dispose of things in your uterus. I mean, you know, this is -- this is what we think of as morality, right? But we don`t talk about public morality, what it means.


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posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 04:43 PM
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Wow, ATS.

I can't believe how many people are purposely misunderstanding/misinterpreting what she is saying.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by terriblyvexed
Wow ok, that's not creepy at all.

I think we are becoming socialists, little by little.

My kids came home yesterday to tell me how they learned to
barter at school. They made things then traded to get what they wanted.

Not make things people wanted then learn to sell it, and how to haggle.

It is just kids though maybe teaching trade, and not capitalism wasn't the
goal. Just having fun, so I'll over look it, but if my kids come home saying
they learned how great socialism, or communism is. The fights on.


As if capitalism is any better.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 05:11 PM
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socialism capitalism not sure either is great to be honest,it ends up corrupt anyway,still the people at the bottom who struggle.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 05:35 PM
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This is why you shouldn't read Infowars. They are skilled manipulators that will have you outraged over nothing.


Let me get this straight....

The mainstream media aren't skilled manipulators...

But people who try to combat the mainstream medias manipulations ARE skilful manipulators?

Are you being this transparent on purpose?

Casper?



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 05:44 PM
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They both are. But while one is simply pushing biased news the other is trying to convince you that the end of the world is just around the corner.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 05:50 PM
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If the day comes somebody around here comes up with a workable system that's better than capitalism, go for it.

Meanwhile, gravity has you stuck down here on Earth, along with reality.

When you get to Heaven or Paradise or Utopia or wherever it is you believe to have been gipped out of being born into, send us a post card how it's working out for you.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 05:59 PM
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91 million people didn't vote because they saw the writing on the wall.

Saying that Obama got 60 million votes isn't the same as saying 60 million people voted for Obama. Not when many of them voted ten or twenty times.

Anyway, the next four years is going to be a pure circle of hell for these socialists who fell for the socialistic televangelism coming off that teleprompter. Obama and his circle are getting wealthy. The socialists are getting poorer.

Those who saw the writing on the wall figured out a way to make a better living. While the collective grew and grew and grew.....say.....maybe someone will harness the energy of the collective to build pyramids?



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Morgenstern89
reply to post by ErtaiNaGia
 


They both are. But while one is simply pushing biased news the other is trying to convince you that the end of the world is just around the corner.

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Soooooooooooooooo . . . let me get this straight . . .

You FAVOR

those who have been aggressively, actively, deliberately . . . since 1915-1917 by the elite's own admission . . .

energetically working TO BRING ABOUT THE TYRANNICAL GLOBAL GOVERNMENT

. . . those are your favorites over the ones trying to expose such.

Got it. I think we understand the side you're on.

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There's abundant documentation in their own words here . . . including their buying out the media in 1915-17
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twga...



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 07:03 PM
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I don't "favor" either of them.

The one you favor, though, is intellectually dishonest when reporting, and fully relies on it's audience to use only their base intellect when reading and interpreting their stories. There's something to what they have to say, I'll give you that. But it's about 1000x less severe than they make it out to be.

I'd rather sift through the MSM bull than subject myself to the doom and gloom churned out by Infowars and similar organizations.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 07:08 PM
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This is like the Borg in star trek.

Assimilate to the hive collective or be annihilated.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 07:12 PM
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Wow! what that woman in the vid said is alarming, and whats even more alarming is the number of people in this thread who just dont get it



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by Raxoxane
Idk,this is a short clip,so i cannot get the full context of what she was trying to get across.To me it seemed like she meant the "it takes a village to raise a child" type sentiment? Not that your children do not belong to you anymore,as in:They can be "confiscated" by the state or your community at any time-but that people should look at children in general as our future,and care about the education and welfare of All children.

Maybe i got it wrong,but i will have to look at this some more,see what she is about in general,before i comment further.


Agreed and though she doesn't say it I suspect that she is discussing lower income black kids that grow up in broken families and high crime areas. I say this because both her books are focused on African American culture. Frankly, she is right about kids in those environments. They need more support, role models and opportunities for positive outcomes.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 07:50 PM
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My kids are grown, but if I had kids school age I would home school them. And as far as the village raising your child....most villages have a pedophile or two. And a rapist, and a nutcase, and a murderer. So becarefull of whom in the village you trust. Trust yourself, home school your kids.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 08:14 PM
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Home schooling your kids is like telling them, "What I don't know, you won't know."

Instead, send them to learn to interact in the social quagmire that is school, and then give them your own guidance and training at home.

Lifes experiences are both good and bad. Don't try to take either from your children, for both are needed to make an intelligent adult.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by Cherry0

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Someone who respects religion is not libertarian.


How do you figure?


Because libertarians are social liberals and financial conservatives. It's no secret buddy! Don't people research anything about politics before they vote? Or do they vote blindely like you?




Lol. First off, I'm a woman. Secondly, I consider myself a libertarian (voted for Gary Johnson last election and for Dr. Paul back in 2008). Thirdly, No need to go for my throat. I was merely asking for you to elaborate on that because I myself respect religions and religious freedom. And no, I do not affiliate myself with any organized religion although respect a person's choice and right to practice one.

Here is lp.org's stance on religion:



We support full freedom of expression and oppose government censorship, regulation or control of communications media and technology. We favor the freedom to engage in or abstain from any religious activities that do not violate the rights of others. We oppose government actions which either aid or attack any religion.


So I hope now you can see why I was a little confused by what you had said before.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by coltcall

Originally posted by Metha-Don
Effin commie degenerates.. Looks like we actually lost the cold war.


You've got to admire how the Soviet Union closed up shop and came back as a Capitalist powerhouse controlling much of the energy supply of Europe.


What exactly is admirable?

The USSR closed up shop and now it's replaced by a similarly authoritarian oligarchy which need not pay any lip service to any ideals of acting in the interests of the common man.

As far as 'controlling the energy supply', that is an accident of being in the lucky geology club, not any brilliant success.

It's much, much more impressive how East Germany closed up shop (literally) and Best Germany took them over, and came back as a capitalist powerhouse which can make money and make clever things made out of atoms and not just things made out of paper and deliver an excellent standard of living for the common Kraut.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
reply to post by Bioshock
 


This is like the Borg in star trek.

Assimilate to the hive collective or be annihilated.



Ha. When I read that, it kind of reminded me of this: Starcraft Overmind: Butterscotch the Pony version

Too many games as a kid I guess.



posted on Apr, 7 2013 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by Bioshock


This is the liberal mindset. Your kids are not your kids. No, they belong to the state. Much like Hitler used to think. You, as an American citizen, are not even entitled to the children that you produce. No, the state OWNS your kids now.

So who here doesn't see the historical reference to Nazi Germany through the eyes of the brainwashed nanny state liberal? Because honestly, it's becoming more and more clear every damn day.

I wonder, why was that both parents had to work again? Oh right, so the state could raise your kids.

Real change, yes he did.

www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


i understand where your coming from but i have a different perspective on what she may be talking about.

When i think about children learning and education in general, especially in the internet age compared to even the late 90's when i was a teenager, you pretty much got your academic education from school, your values and ethics from your parents and your understanding of the world and how it operates for adults (etc. sex, drugs, society in general) from your peers.

That has completely changed now and parents dont have a chance of keeping up with what kids are up to and where they get their information from, and parents are busier than ever and a society as a whole should be interested in making sure the youth are being guided in the right direction cause all i see lately are smart arse little shts who need a good flogging for the most part, no respect, no selflessness only spoilt little brats who live in the moment for themselves who many of which will be of no value to society as adults and will only further exacerbate our problems, of which we have many



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