Scientists develop fusion rocket technology that could get to Mars in 30 days

Originally posted by Orwells Ghost
reply to post by minkmouse

 

I imagine you would just flip that ***** around and fire the engine in the other direction for the required amount of time.

30 Days? Not bad but they need to bring the matter/antimatter reactor online first.

Then they can travel to Mars in 30 minutes.

Travel to the Earths' moon in 5 minutes.

Originally posted by Grimpachi
I would like to see something like this put to use as a shuttle to go back and forth to the moon.

I would like to see bases built on the moon where the materials there could be utilized to build other craft. The moon could essentially become our giant space station where launching expedition missions to planets such as mars would become far easier and with time the moon could have its own factories.

We could mine helium three which would solve all the problems for electric needs of earth that would be worth the investment right there. I also read that there are other advantages such as when aluminum is forged in near 0 gravity it has a tensile strength greater than steel. There are several reasons which can also be lucrative for setting up permanent bases on the moon. With this fusion drive it would cut down on one of the most dangerous aspects of traveling there the time involved.

Maybe I am just a dreamer but it is a nice dream.

Helium 3 works great for power generation but Crystalline Fusion Generators are even

better. Use Aluminium Ceramic formula for the 5" hull.

Calculation to Mars - Believe it or not!

If you accelerate all the way to Mars at 1G.

Time taken = 29 Hours
Final speed = Mach 3500 = 1,050 Km/s or if you want to try this in your car = 3,780,000 Km/h

Now, you guys that want to do aerobraking, well, good luck. The diameter of Mars is 6,779 km. you will pass it in 6.5 seconds. That is 6.5 seconds of aerobraking from 3,780,000 Km/h.

If you accelerate at 1G for half the journey and then decelerate for the other half.

Time taken = 40 Hours
Max speed at turnover is 741 Km/s = Mach 2472 = 2,667,600 Km/h

So, your motor is not that powerful?

Lets try it at a very low 0.1G or one hundred times less acceleration.

Time taken is only ten times longer so if you use the turnover procedure the journey time would be 400 hours or about 17 days. Of course that is 17 days without appreciable gravity. OK for astronauts, not good for the tourist trade and let us face it, that is where the money will come from.

This should tell you that aero braking is not an option. At that final velocity, the Gravitational pull of Mars would by insignificant and you would just fly right past it.

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Originally posted by TauCetixeta

Originally posted by Orwells Ghost
reply to post by minkmouse

 

I imagine you would just flip that ***** around and fire the engine in the other direction for the required amount of time.

30 Days? Not bad but they need to bring the matter/antimatter reactor online first.

Then they can travel to Mars in 30 minutes.

Travel to the Earths' moon in 5 minutes.

Considering how fast that spacecraft would need to be going to do that (Mars in 30 minutes, the Moon in 5 minutes), we would also need some sort of "Inertial dampener" (which also has yet to be invented) so a human would be able to survive the g-forces from the acceleration up to speed, and to survive the g-forces of deceleration once they get near target.

They would need to decelerate to achieve orbit, or else they just shoot right on by the target.

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by TauCetixeta

Originally posted by Orwells Ghost
reply to post by minkmouse

 

I imagine you would just flip that ***** around and fire the engine in the other direction for the required amount of time.

30 Days? Not bad but they need to bring the matter/antimatter reactor online first.

Then they can travel to Mars in 30 minutes.

Travel to the Earths' moon in 5 minutes.

Considering how fast that spacecraft would need to be going to do that (Mars in 30 minutes, the Moon in 5 minutes), we would also need some sort of "Inertial dampener" (which also has yet to be invented) so a human would be able to survive the g-forces from the acceleration up to speed, and to survive the g-forces of deceleration once they get near target.

They would need to decelerate to achieve orbit, or else they just shoot right on by the target.

edit on 4/10/2013 by Soylent Green Is People because: (no reason given)

No, the warp field nullifies all G-forces.

Warp field allows the spacecraft to travel in another dimension.

That's how they are able to make sharp 90 degree turns at high speeds.

reply to post by TauCetixeta


What Warp field! When did we get Warp fields. This is so cool. Do we really have Warp fields now. Crap, we haven't even assembled the Fusion drive and we have Warp. Cool as!

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We don't need fusion technology to go to Mars.

We could have done it long long ago with Fission based 'Nuclear Thermal' rockets.

en.wikipedia.org...

The USA had a working nuclear thermal rocket in the 1960s. The USA has had the potential to be on Mars for longer than I have been alive.

We wont go to Mars because the political classes see no votes in it and nobody else is going that we feel threatened by. Until that changes we are going nowhere. Everything else is just excuses. There will always be something else better than we can 'just wait for'.

Originally posted by pheonix358
reply to post by TauCetixeta

 

What Warp field! When did we get Warp fields. This is so cool. Do we really have Warp fields now. Crap, we haven't even assembled the Fusion drive and we have Warp. Cool as!

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Airl gave us a working prototype on July 2, 1947 near Datil, New Mexico.

She crashed into East Sugarloaf Mountain late at night after a mid-air collision

during a severe thunderstorm.

reply to post by Chrisfishenstein


The term 'escape velocity' is an abstract one. For instance, to achieve Earth to Lunar orbit -25,700mph means that if an object were accelerated to this speed on the Earths surface it would be fast enough for it to reach the moon without further acceleration. As you well know the Apollo rocket never launched at this speed so it is something of a misnomer. The exhaust velocity also doesn't give an accurate indication of maximum achievable speed, for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction. In a zero-g vacuum even a lowly gas velocity can result in a rocket reaching relativistic speeds, given enough time. How this new method allows faster transit is due to a far greater efficiency of rocket performance and the much lower mass of fuel needed. This one can carry enough fuel to burn all the way to Mars and back, something that no chemical rocket built by us can ever do. Chemical rockets are mostly made of fuel due to the very poor ratios of power and mass needed for sustained propulsion.

Originally posted by TauCetixeta

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by TauCetixeta

Originally posted by Orwells Ghost
reply to post by minkmouse

 

I imagine you would just flip that ***** around and fire the engine in the other direction for the required amount of time.

30 Days? Not bad but they need to bring the matter/antimatter reactor online first.

Then they can travel to Mars in 30 minutes.

Travel to the Earths' moon in 5 minutes.

Considering how fast that spacecraft would need to be going to do that (Mars in 30 minutes, the Moon in 5 minutes), we would also need some sort of "Inertial dampener" (which also has yet to be invented) so a human would be able to survive the g-forces from the acceleration up to speed, and to survive the g-forces of deceleration once they get near target.

They would need to decelerate to achieve orbit, or else they just shoot right on by the target.

edit on 4/10/2013 by Soylent Green Is People because: (no reason given)

No, the warp field nullifies all G-forces.

Warp field allows the spacecraft to travel in another dimension.

That's how they are able to make sharp 90 degree turns at high speeds.

edit on 10-4-2013 by TauCetixeta because: (no reason given)

You never mention a warp field, just a matter/antimatter reactor.

Even in Star Trek, a matter/antimatter reaction doesn't automatically create a warp filed -- it's just the energy source that is used to produce the large amounts of energy needed in order to create that field.

That's two different things. We can already make matter and antimatter react (on a small scale, but theoretically on a large scale, also, if we had enough antimatter). However, we don't know how to produce a warp bubble.

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by TauCetixeta

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by TauCetixeta

Originally posted by Orwells Ghost
reply to post by minkmouse

 

I imagine you would just flip that ***** around and fire the engine in the other direction for the required amount of time.

30 Days? Not bad but they need to bring the matter/antimatter reactor online first.

Then they can travel to Mars in 30 minutes.

Travel to the Earths' moon in 5 minutes.

Considering how fast that spacecraft would need to be going to do that (Mars in 30 minutes, the Moon in 5 minutes), we would also need some sort of "Inertial dampener" (which also has yet to be invented) so a human would be able to survive the g-forces from the acceleration up to speed, and to survive the g-forces of deceleration once they get near target.

They would need to decelerate to achieve orbit, or else they just shoot right on by the target.

edit on 4/10/2013 by Soylent Green Is People because: (no reason given)

No, the warp field nullifies all G-forces.

Warp field allows the spacecraft to travel in another dimension.

That's how they are able to make sharp 90 degree turns at high speeds.

edit on 10-4-2013 by TauCetixeta because: (no reason given)

You never mention a warp field, just a matter/antimatter reactor.

Even in Star Trek, a matter/antimatter reaction doesn't automatically create a warp filed -- it's just the energy source that is used to produce the large amounts of energy needed in order to create that field.

That's two different things. We can already make matter and antimatter react (on a small scale, but theoretically on a large scale, also, if we had enough antimatter). However, we don't know how to produce a warp bubble.

edit on 4/10/2013 by Soylent Green Is People because: (no reason given)

When the reactor is online it creates a warp field around the spacecraft with the aid of

a waveguide. The heat from the reactor is transformed into electricity with a thermoelectric

generator. There are 2 types of reactors Manual Load and Auto Load Reactors.

The small reactors that are the size of a basketball are manual load.

If you are in a battle, the last thing you want to do is take your reactor off line in order

to reload it with Element 115.

It would be a good idea to have a Helium 3 Reactor nearby to also generate electricity.

Originally posted by Cinnamon
reply to post by Chrisfishenstein

 

The term 'escape velocity' is an abstract one. For instance, to achieve Earth to Lunar orbit -25,700mph means that if an object were accelerated to this speed on the Earths surface it would be fast enough for it to reach the moon without further acceleration....

This is true. The commonly-referred-to escape velocity of Earth as being 25,000 mph is only if the spacecraft was coasting at 25,000 mph, like the Apollo command module coasted beyond the Earth to the Moon.

Theoretically, I could escape the Earth by simply going 1 mph, if my spacecraft was under constant thrust while doing so.

Originally posted by TauCetixeta
Airl gave us a working prototype on July 2, 1947 near Datil, New Mexico.

She crashed into East Sugarloaf Mountain late at night after a mid-air collision

during a severe thunderstorm.

Will you stop with this "Airl" nonsense?

reply to post by Xenoglossy


Who is this Airl?

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No-one here heard of David Adair? and his "Fusion Rocket engine" built when he was 17? Supposedly.

www.abovetopsecret.com...