Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by POXUSA
You might want to double check that on the Soviet Union. They went into a spiral of debt which wasn't even admitted to until the late 1980's, even
as a suggestion. At the end, they did admit to just how real and deep their debt had become...right before they collapsed. The Governments who
depended heavily on Moscow then collapsed in quick succession over the follow year or so. The whole of Eastern Europe. I know it's easy to think that
happened as a big block event ...but it was each nation, on separate conditions and circumstances, falling for it's own reasons in sequence. The only
common denominator (aside from obvious politics of the regimes) was the heavy reliance on the Soviet Union.
As far as this guy, well... I wish someone would explain to some of these 'experts' that it's like the rule of observation in science. You can tend
to change something by merely observing it. In this case, the whole economy is based on perception of stability and belief of value. Perceptions ...
Which absolutely CAN be shaken and shattered with enough hammering of "The Sky Is falling! RUN!". When Chicken Little is a thousand little chicks
all squawking the same thing? Well, it MAY have been inevitable. The drum beat INSURES it is, IMO.
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I agree about it. POXUSA was mistaken by saying Soviets collapsed due to covert means.
Of course they had exhausted themselves by losing the arms race against USA, although the nations soviets had occupied, had not let it go and kept
fighting for their freedom peacefully by negotiating better terms step by step. Perestroika and glasnost truly gave much freedom of speech and lots of
meetings were organised. In 1989 Baltic Chain was made, when 2 million people joined their hands and formed a 370 mile-long chain from Tallinn,
Estonia to Vilnius, Lituania as an act of protest to show the world that they wanted free from the occupants and they got it, when they used the
political situation to break free from the Soviets, everyone separately in a different way. For example Estonians sang themselves free, no deaths, no
fighting, no arms, hundreds of thousands of people singing together to break free from the Soviets - the Singing Revolution. A great documentary on
i, (could not find full movie, although the trailer is also great and inspiring
About the USA situation, I agree that the system is in really bad condition and it can be compared to Soviet collapse. In 1989 Soviet Union could not
do anything to stop it, it was simply matter of time.The debt is already too big to pay it back, ever, and keeps growing. The corporation have too
much power. The wealth cap is too large and keeps growing. Thesmall and medium-sized companies is the smallest compared to other developed countries
and a whole 52,7% of people work for corporations. Sooner or later, the system will collapse, unless some serious changes are made by the government,
for example, even setting different rules for corporations and small businesses would help. Higher taxes, more standards for large corporation, small
companies get by easier. Currently the corporations are simply killing the small businesses... Individual debts are too high. Many people spend their
lives paying back school loans, which is bad for the economy as a whole. People work and work and then the money goes somewhere else instead of back
to the market.
Overally I believe the system is too flawed to be able to sustain itself in the long run. Sooner or later crashes are gonna come. They can be
silenced, although it is like taping a big hole in the ship. The tape might hold for a while, but the hole is still there. Cyprus, Greece and any
other bailed out country will have to pay back the bail some day. It does not kill the problem, but simply silences it and sooner or later, everybody
else has the suffer, because changes were not done in the right time.