British Hackers Attack Falklands War game

reply to post by wemustbreakyou


She seems to have edited and toned down her initial responses to the thread, however you are welcome to agree with her. The posts still seem to be provocative but you should have seen the ones earlier! . Now back on-topic as we're all veering off.

How can Argentina "take back" the falklands when it never existed once Britain had taken the islands (from no one living there)? By the same logic the Argies are still Spanish conquistadors with the blood of native Americans on their hands.

reply to post by walliswallis


I do believe then that the empire that affects the economic situation in Argentina, as an independent and sovereign nation is that of .... well Argentina. I am not aware of any economic sanctions imposed by the British "empire" on the Argentine. More over what about the economic sanctions being imposed on the Falklands by way of embargoes on third party countries transport links (air and sea) from entering Argentine air and sea space if they continue links to the Falklands.

BTW, for someone that claims to have spent 9 months in Buenos Aires, your basic level of Spanish is poor, if you continue to refer to the as the Isles Malvinas. when you should know it it ISLAS.

Still waiting to hear your response on other imperialist expansion and annexation of other Latin American countries as mentioned in my post. Ahh OK, but this is OK as long as there is no British involvement correct. Well you would be wrong there also, as Belize (A British Territory) was also part of the Greater Mexican Empire.

This country in particular has historical support from Ireland going back to the battle of Puebla, Contrast to Argentina which historically has had none.

You see it's hard to return something to someone that never owned it in the first place. Its an age old discussion here on ATS that has been done to death, and debunked many times. But if we get to the root cause of your postulating it comes down to province in the north of your island that the people of the republic state they do not want reunification with, because they can't afford it. Straight from the mouth of many paddy's I have had dealings with.

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by wemustbreakyou

 

Why? why should it have to do with the argies? Argentina did not even exist when we settled there, we have toiled the lands for 100's of years.
Like someone else said the Argentinians are hypocrites their country was founded by the spanish who killed many of the native people.
We didn't kill any natives on the Falklands cos no one lived there.
Oh and what did you get banned for this time?

edit on 30-3-2013 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)

The first buildings are Spanish. Look into it.

And the Pommies did indeed commit genocide when they invaded Las Malvinas.

The Pommies used to do that alot didnt they?

reply to post by walliswallis


"Reincorporate national territory" How can Argentina "reincorporate" national territory when Argentina didn't actually exist at the time Britain had started to inhabit the falklands when previously there was no one there?

Originally posted by JakiusFogg
reply to post by walliswallis

 

I do believe then that the empire that affects the economic situation in Argentina, as an independent and sovereign nation is that of .... well Argentina. I am not aware of any economic sanctions imposed by the British "empire" on the Argentine. More over what about the economic sanctions being imposed on the Falklands by way of embargoes on third party countries transport links (air and sea) from entering Argentine air and sea space if they continue links to the Falklands.

BTW, for someone that claims to have spent 9 months in Buenos Aires, your basic level of Spanish is poor, if you continue to refer to the as the Isles Malvinas. when you should know it it ISLAS.

Still waiting to hear your response on other imperialist expansion and annexation of other Latin American countries as mentioned in my post. Ahh OK, but this is OK as long as there is no British involvement correct. Well you would be wrong there also, as Belize (A British Territory) was also part of the Greater Mexican Empire.

This country in particular has historical support from Ireland going back to the battle of Puebla, Contrast to Argentina which historically has had none.

You see it's hard to return something to someone that never owned it in the first place. Its an age old discussion here on ATS that has been done to death, and debunked many times. But if we get to the root cause of your postulating it comes down to province in the north of your island that the people of the republic state they do not want reunification with, because they can't afford it. Straight from the mouth of many paddy's I have had dealings with.

I didn't have time to read your entire speech; I just skimmed it and can respond to a couple points that jumped out:

- In regard to my knowledge of Spanish; one makes typos in Spanish as one makes typos in English. I apologize if you were scandalized.

- I saw the word "Belize" in there during my scan. I'm not sure what it was in reference to, however, I do support the Guatemalan claims, if that's what you were discussing.

Also, a kind thanks to you for keeping this topical and not using ad hom attacks as a few others have done.

No point continuing this like a poster said it has been done to death and nothing will change our minds especially ill informed arguments which are just not true.
Cya all.

Why is everyone getting so worked up over a video game? Pixels attempting to do what the Argies failed to do the first time around?

Let them live in fantasy la la land, it is as close as they will get to stealing land from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

I'm going to post the pic I made for the last Falklands thread highlighting my theory that it is really just a battle of the sexes and us guys are down on points.....

reply to post by walliswallis


Doesn;t need it. You are aware there is a full manned and servcied Typhoon wing stationed permanently on the islands?? have you seen what a typhoon can do??

reply to post by walliswallis


Sorry didn't read your post I just skimmed it.....Pfft.
Bye.

Originally posted by woogleuk
Why is everyone getting so worked up over a video game? Pixels attempting to do what the Argies failed to do the first time around?

Let them live in fantasy la la land, it is as close as they will get to stealing land from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

I'm going to post the pic I made for the last Falklands thread highlighting my theory that it is really just a battle of the sexes and us guys are down on points.....

[Boxing Announcer Voice] In the English corner: an elderly transvestite and a fancy lad who got the midnight tickle treatment at Eton

reply to post by walliswallis


Back to point one, Argentina could not afford such levels of "restitution". it's a bankrupt nation. This is why that idea whatever it's source is a no go. De Kirchner wants all or nothing. So she's going to get..... nothing.

Originally posted by JakiusFogg
there is a full manned and servcied Typhoon wing stationed permanently on the islands

Is that what they're calling the 4 Eurofighters at Mt. Pleasant?

okay

*shrug*

reply to post by Wulfric


Sorry about the source. Cant be bothered finding something better.

This is pretty much their side of the story.

It went something like this: the islands were first seen by Spanish explorers in the 1400s and for more than 300 years afterwards changed hands between Spain, Britain and France, who named them Les Malouines (after St Malo). The Argentinians, who began settling in the early 1800s after winning their independence, and appointed the first governor in 1829, changed this to 'Malvinas'. For four years they lived there peacefully but then the nasty, imperialist British came back and ordered them off, and barring those glorious 74 days in 1982, remained in occupation for 180 years. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... #ixzz2P1TksaP6 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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Can you not see where the Argentinians are coming from?

Guys, you have figured out that wemustbreakyou is WallisWallis right?

Even a half blind womble from Wimbledon common could have worked that one out.

reply to post by wemustbreakyou


Nope.

reply to post by wemustbreakyou


Wrong again, the British along with the French were already there while the part of what is now argentina most close to the islands was not even part of Spanish territory. They were laid claim to many many year prior to the arrival of that Argentine marine garrison, who was evicted from previous claimed islands. So you see we have booted them out of our claimed lands, not once, but twice.

So are you thinking third time is a charm.

Also, still waiting response on US annexation of Mexican lands which happened well after the claim of the Falklands by the British. Surely this is a more recent example which requires the immediate attention of the UN?? no, OK we'll all just ignore that side of the argument then!

Originally posted by JakiusFogg
reply to post by walliswallis

 

Back to point one, Argentina could not afford such levels of "restitution". it's a bankrupt nation. This is why that idea whatever it's source is a no go. De Kirchner wants all or nothing. So she's going to get..... nothing.

Suffice to say I'm no fan of the present administration and, verily, it is true we have a battle of two bankrupt minor powers going on here ... the poor man of Europe versus the poor man of the Americas. I'm hoping the Peronismo Federales are able to advance their candidate for Justicialist support in the next election. They are far more competent and better able to advance the Argentine cause for reintegration of the national territory.

reply to post by wemustbreakyou


Not really. Wikipedia I know, but may I point you towards this:

en.wikipedia.org...(1833)

"On 20 May 1776 the British forces under the command of Lieutenant Clayton formally took their leave of Port Egmont, leaving a plaque asserting Britain's continuing sovereignty over the islands."

So the "Argentinians" seemed to have ignored that and just walked in anyway, seems like they are the trespassers here, first with the slaughter of American Indians and second by ignoring territorial boundaries and claiming the Falklands when it had already belonged to Britain.

I didn't have time to read your entire speech; I just skimmed it and can respond to a couple points that jumped out:

- In regard to my knowledge of Spanish; one makes typos in Spanish as one makes typos in English. I apologize if you were scandalized.

- I saw the word "Belize" in there during my scan. I'm not sure what it was in reference to, however, I do support the Guatemalan claims,

if that's what you were discussing. Also, a kind thanks to you for keeping this topical and not using ad hom attacks as a few others have done.

reply to post by walliswallis


1, That's a bit poor if you are upholding vibrant debate

2, I agree that typos happen. But typo are one offs not repetitive. The repetitious nature of a spelling error is suggestive that the writer does not actually know the correct spelling.

3, Re-read section on Belize. Also Guatemala was also part of the Mexican Empire.

Originally posted by wemustbreakyou

Can you not see where the Argentinians are coming from?

Yes, we have look out posts all round the Falklands....plus they aren't very stealthy