After his latest Failed attempt to ban sugary drinks Mayor Bloomberg has decided to change gears. This time he is looking to financially devastate smalls businesses by requiring them to hide their cigarettes. Hide their cigarettes ? What the hell is with that? Well, he believes that since it is a bad influence on children, ALL Cigarettes should be hidden out of sight so that children will not be influenced.

The 'ol boy is an absolute idiot. He has no foresight what so ever. As with the drink ban that was overturned last week. Surely a man with so much money might have the slightest inkling that making that kind of change in a business will cost money.

AND, what about the advertisers? Well, they will just have to suck it up and drive on. Have you ever been inside an establishment that sells cigarettes and there is NO advertising. I doubt it. It's how they push new products.

It appears as though he trying to create policy to his liking with out even considering the consequences.

The mayor may have a HUGE wallet, and may be a nice guy. BUT, he is EXTREMELY Lax on Brains.

He should stop trying to create new policy and start doing the things that a mayor does like improving the local economy, concentrate funds on police, fire, and rescue services, as well hold town hall meetings to find out what the people believe needs attention.

On a small personal note, .. I believe that this new policy will be shot down in flames just like the soda ban.


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This has recently been adopted by some stores in the UK... now i'm not sure if it is some voluntary programme, but in short supermarkets now have a tobacco related items behind shutter doors at the counter where they sell ciggies, choccy bars and newspapers etc.

it's a pointless pain in the botty. besides this no other stores such as mini-marts and corner/convenience shops do the same.

i tend to ask for my rolling baccy, wait untill the poor and blameless staff member has closed the doors and relocked the cabinet, and then ask for my rolling papers. i may add a lighter for a third trip if i am feeling like a real troll, or change my mind and ask for different products.

sometimes i will politely ask them to tell me what brands they sell too, seeing as i cannot see what they are selling.

then when directed to the tarriff printed on a sheet of a4 and posted to the desk i tell them that the type is too small.

resistance may be futile, but when shops are being bloody awkward, it's fair game if you ask me

He's just mad his soda war is becoming a nationwide joke....


Any reasonable person should know that kids dont start smoking cigarettes by seeing them in the store.

Funny because some of these people he is trying to save from themselves are still homeless as a result of the destruction Sandy did to HIS city, but no effort is being made to help them get home - only to make them thinner and healthier.

Although I am quite a heavy smoker, on and off, but currently on around a pack of red ones a day, I support such idea.

Cigarettes is a product that has no practical value to the society, there are no psitive effects to smoking, only negative.. When I started smoking I was young and stupid. Although quitting is not easy. Have tried to quit for quite some time already although always went back after couple of months.

The government here is planning on losing all the cigarette and alcohol commercials, moving the cigarettes behind the cound and putting some disgusting pictures on the packs- pretty strong punch on the cigarette companies here. Who cares whether it is money or not, some things are not simply right. The promotion of cigarettes and ads on every corner and I am sure they influence lots of us, especially younger ones, who often tend to be more "gullible" and do not have much life experience.

Most smokers I know started at around same age as I do 15-16 and have yet to quit.

Although I am smoker, this is habit something I suggest to no one. Really one of the most pointless habits: takes money, ruins health and really nasty to get rid of. The guy is not suggesting losing the cigarettes, simply hiding them. Who wants gets them anyways, although less people would start smoking and that is positive effect.

I hope sooner or later the cigarette industry dies. Every year the amount of smokers decreases and the overall campaign against it is working well. Every time when the tax is raised on cigarettes, I am honestly happy about it. At least some people quit because of it

Hopefully gonna quit it too sooner or later and this time for real

They do that here in Australia. They’re either hidden behind a curtain, in a cupboard or in shelves. I see no problem with it. People who already smoke still do it. It’s their choice to harm their bodies with that poison. But frankly, if you decide whether or not you’re going to smoke based on whether the packs are in plain sight or hidden then you’re an idiot. I don’t see how it would have any bearing on general life in any way? Anything that may help curb smoking is a good thing. Not much worse than being near a smoker and breathing in that awful stuff. Likewise standing near a heavy smoker and just smelling the cigarette smell on their clothes and breath. They aren’t really infringing on your person rights to smoke if you wish. Have you guys banned smoking in pubs/bars and outdoor dining areas?

What I don’t agree with is that this guy appears to have so much power in his city. I thought laws and things like that were up to the Government to make and not the mayor? I think the mayor’s role is an ambassador and to ensure the city is running as it should; small fixes to traffic issues, keeping the place clean and tidy and whatever else. Not making laws. And bylaws are a joke. It wasn’t long ago that the Bass Council here (includes coastal areas like Phillip Island, Kilcunda and Wonthaggi) had a bylaw banning people from setting up tents on their own land, like in the backyard for the kids or if they have a number of friends over and don’t have enough room in the house for everyone to sleep.

Basically, I see no problem with this. If he wanted to include alcohol in the deal then that’s a different matter..

Well, half his staff smokes.

Like to see him hide it.

Originally posted by skalla
This has recently been adopted by some stores in the UK... now i'm not sure if it is some voluntary programme, but in short supermarkets now have a tobacco related items behind shutter doors at the counter where they sell ciggies, choccy bars and newspapers etc.

it's a pointless pain in the botty. besides this no other stores such as mini-marts and corner/convenience shops do the same.

i tend to ask for my rolling baccy, wait untill the poor and blameless staff member has closed the doors and relocked the cabinet, and then ask for my rolling papers. i may add a lighter for a third trip if i am feeling like a real troll, or change my mind and ask for different products.

sometimes i will politely ask them to tell me what brands they sell too, seeing as i cannot see what they are selling.

then when directed to the tarriff printed on a sheet of a4 and posted to the desk i tell them that the type is too small.

resistance may be futile, but when shops are being bloody awkward, it's fair game if you ask me

Hi,

It's not voluntary in the UK, initial implementation is down to floor space - if a shop is of a certain size they need the shutters now legally, your local off license want have it as mandatory for quite a while yet.

Ummm Cigarettes are a waste of oxygen
there is really nothing to add to that.

Originally posted by BlindBastards
People who already smoke still do it. It’s their choice to harm their bodies with that poison. But frankly, if you decide whether or not you’re going to smoke based on whether the packs are in plain sight or hidden then you’re an idiot.

It is not the fact about the choice being made whether to smoke based on the visibility of the smokes, but about the influence that the overall marketing has on our decisions.

Why do you think in TV and on streets there are all the ads. Of course one of the main reasons of it is about making people aware of the product, although it also affects our decisions. Imagine a situation when wherever you go absolutely everywhere are "for smoking" campaigns. I imagine in such a situation most people would be smoking. The amount of smoking "propaganda" in the movies and overally everywhere is one of the reasons why there are so many smokers.

Also I know several cases, when someone trying to quit or started smoking, simply cause they went to store after a bad day without no intention of buying a cigarette pack. Although when standing near the counter, they saw the packs and though "Ah, what the hell, lets get one, only one". And then came two...

Who is this guy? Is he an elected official? Why don't you guys recall his ass?

He's an idiot! Doesn't he have more important work to do?

Bloomberg........





While you are at it,ban the internet,ban tv,radio and newspapers.

Then,people want have anything to do but go outside and explore the wonders of the city before getting ran over by a cab.

As above poster says, it's done here & it's no big deal. All tobacco advertising is banned in Australia and has been for quiet a while. I think if it can stop just one person from taking up the habit then good.

You can still buy them, they're there just out of sight. I am a smoker and it has not effected me one bit, either has the horrible pictures or plain packaging we have here. Terrible, terrible habit.

On the other side, I do however wonder what our tobacco advertising ban has done the the sale figures here or how it's effected the shops, businesses or tobacco companies. After all it's not illegal is it.