Bloomberg is A Waste Of Oxygen Now He Wants To Hide Cigarettes

reply to post by SilentKillah


And do you react the same way when you see a NO-SMOKING sign or a anti-smoking advertisement?

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Tired of Control Freaks

Originally posted by Petriclivicus
reply to post by DarknStormy

 

Well then,. . I am curious.

How do the cigarette companies handle their add campaigns? Or has the government impeded advertising?

Good question and I'll also add my experience also. They have only recently banned the companies advertising through colour, names etc.. So if yous are on the way with hiding the cigarettes, I would expect the same to follow with advertising. When the changes did come into affect, I noticed that not only the packaging had changed but the entire flavour of the cigarette did also.

The cigarettes seemed bigger and tasted like crap.. So there are a few things that could be brought up but whether they are significant, who really knows. I don't buy them anymore. People across the country started noticing the differences also and all the tobacco companies had to say was that it was a "Psychological" thing because they have't changed the cigarettes.. I tell you now, they did and my taste buds don't have psychological issues when it comes to cigarettes.

Something to just keep an eye on though hiding the cigarettes really doesn't make any difference.

Originally posted by SilentKillah
From my position... as a smoker who wants to quit, I can say that there are many times that I walk into 7 Eleven to get some water and wish that I hadn't seen tobacco products behind the counter. Had I not thought about them, I wouldn't have bought another pack in many instances.

Ummm........OR...get this...Had you not made the decision to ask for and purchase them...then you might just...not...have smoked them afterward...had you...not...purchased them..........see how that works? It's really not a difficult subject to comprehend.

YouSir

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Perhaps the anti-smoking campaigns have less to do with "caring about our health" and more to do with marketing Big Pharma nicotene delivery systems (pills patches, lozenges and sprays". Afterall, Big Pharma is the one footing most of the bills for the activists.

How else can one explain why e-cigs are being treated the same as smoking. E-cigs are an alternate nicotene delivery system that is in direct competition with Big Pharma.

Tired of Control Freaks

We have to pick our battles or we're going to lose. I honestly don't see a problem with this proposed idea. They aren't banning cigarettes. You know what I do have a problem with? I'm pretty sure e-cigs ARE banned in Nyc. That is disgusting to me.

The only reason I decided to try an e-cig, was from seeing the posters at my local tobacco shop every time I went for a bag O' baccy. I don't have a problem with the tobacco industry NOT getting any new customers. As a nicotine addict, I don't find smoking fun or pleasurable. I'm assuming anyone who smokes a pack or more a day will agree with that. I would never wish this or any other addiction upon anyone. As long as they don't take away our freedom to do something, I'm ok with it. I feel this way because they are trying to BAN e-cigs all over the place, when they could save hundreds of thousands of lives. For the children of course. We can just die and never know there was a safer alternative as far as they're concerned. Disgusting.

Originally posted by wiser3
reply to post by YouSir

 

I have one question for Cabin "all the smoking propaganda in the movies"? What century are you living in?
I watch many movies and I can't remember when last I actually saw someone light up! I believe that smoking in movies HAS BEEN BANNED!

Ummm.....I'm in the middle of watching "Battlestar Galactica" (new version) on Netflix and they smoke all through the series.......ya know what? So what. I dont care if they do or don't, I think it's probably some social commentary by the writers on stress and stress relievers cause they all drink like fishes as well...again...so what. It never gave me the desire to reach for a fag (yes cigarettes used to be called fag's so don't gay basher, bash me) or down a bottle of scotch...just because I saw it on the big screen. Perhaps my tin-foil hat is two sizes too small and it blocks all that subliminally overt propagandizing.............or.....I just take it for what it is...a prop in a dramatic sci-fi series...nothing more.

YouSir

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Haaa! I smiled when I saw your comment right above mine. It's really sick that these anti-tobacco activists are against a safer alternative. Again though, we have to pick our battles. If they come up with an idea that really could help prevent underage kids from smoking, we should support it. If both sides aren't willing to budge, we look like uncaring psychos to them and vice-versa.

typical politician too gutless to take on the big corporations so he tries to push the little guys around. If there is some sort of problem with smoking tobacco then it should be outlawed.oh! that`s right if they outlawed it that would make the tobacco industry mad and they would stop giving him kick backs and bribe money not to mention all the tax money that the state would lose.

kids smoking isn`t a big enough problem for him to put his money where his mouth is but it`s big enough to cause him to try to bully the little people. hypocrite.

reply to post by Petriclivicus

Surely a man with so much money might have the slightest inkling that making that kind of change in a business will cost money.

How much does it cost to buy a curtain? $20 maybe? Are people that are addicted to cigarettes going to somehow forget to buy cigarettes if they're having a nicotine fit or out of cigarettes? I doubt it.

I don't agree with this law, but I don't think it is going to cost businesses a whole lot of money.

Again he is dictating his lifestyle on the rest of us. And of course he must be right since he is the mayor/billionaire and we are just lazy uneducated ppl who know no better! Hey Papa bloomturd how about taking care of the real issues at hand like crime and fiscal issues!

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The elected Mayor of New York City, the socialist arm of NY.

The idiots keep re electing him because he doesn't have a term limit.

term limits are needed!!!


Anybody her him on the radio recently saying he can't live without Cheezitz, so don't ban them. He actually said, don't ban Cheezitz.

Typical hypocrite.

This is the same guy who doesn't want salt shakers on tables in restaurants.

Time for him to retire far far away.

reply to post by SilentKillah


So, because you can't control yourself or make the right decisions, we should all live under some nanny, dictator making our decisions for us?


No thank you, that's your problem not mine.

This is good news. Cigarettes are bad for your health, and the temptation needs to be removed from behind every cash register. Hopefully one day that city will ban tobacco. Turn the place into the strangest city on the planet. There will be a population boom of healthy-lunged people who can shout obscenities louder. Sure there will be little smoking places on the outskirts of the city, smoking pagans, rustics sitting around with a cigarette and a big gulp of mountain dew.

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That's funny, do you really believe what you just wrote?

I had no idea cigs were the only cause of pollution and the worst, too?

Wow, everything I ever learned just went out the window.

We need to ban farts, burps, viruses, cars, fireplaces, body odor, paint, nail polish, perfume, soap, hairspray, bacteria, stoves, indoor heat apparatuses, air conditioning, whew.....I'll continue the list later.

I can't say I care much about cigarettes because I stopped smoking for nearly a year now! However, if they did this with alcohol I would be on the same bandwagon as the smokers. Why are they attacking cigarettes lol.
I agree it's ridiculous for small business.

When will you ever hear the end of the ban hammer.

...so glad i don't live in NYC...bloomberg is SUCH a moron...

anyway, i'm gonna respond to some things i saw here....

Yes, bloomberg has tons of money, and he COMPLETELY understands that this will end up costing businesses money...but here's the thing; he doesn't give a s**t, because it's not HIS money...

Originally posted by BlindBastards
They do that here in Australia. They’re either hidden behind a curtain, in a cupboard or in shelves. I see no problem with it. People who already smoke still do it. It’s their choice to harm their bodies with that poison.

*snip*

Basically, I see no problem with this. If he wanted to include alcohol in the deal then that’s a different matter..

and then there's this...

you, sir, are a hypocrite....

what you said, basically boils down to "i see no problem with hiding/eliminating something because i personally don't like it, but if you touch anything i like, then we have a problem". which is ignorant....it's basically saying that you think the rights of other people don't matter as much as yours, which is exactly the kind of ignorant-ass thinking, that allows laws like this to come into existence.... the ignorance...deny it..

and then i saw some other stupidity about how it's ok to hide these, because then children won't see them....

folks, this is some straight up idiocy here....kids aren't buying from the stores themselves, they're bribing adults to buy them, or they're stealing them from their parents... kids don't smoke because they saw the cigarette packs in a shop, they smoke because their parents smoke, or their older friends smoke, or someone important to them (family member, etc) smokes...

following this dumbass rationale, we could say "lets hide the really strong liquor in a liquor store", or "lets hide the chocolate, cakes, and pies in a grocery", or "lets hide the corn nuts in a convenience store"....and all this bulls**t is "for the children"....total nonsense, they don't give a damn about the children, that's just the latest acceptable excuse to intrude upon people's lives, and attempt to curtail their freedom

and so what if a 17 year old decides he wants to smoke? we have free will for a reason. if we use that free will to make poor choices, that eventually lead to our own demise, then so be it...the choice is the individual's to make..

i'm sure i'll have more, after i manage to choke through the rest of this thread, i just saw stuff i needed to comment on right quick..

It's been like that for awhile here in Alberta.
If anything, it's now becoming more intriguing to kids... hahaha.

What I love is how the health ads take up 75% of the f**king pack. Sorry, but your photo of cotton candy tongue, enlarged so you can see every bubbly tastebud... STIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL has not gotten me to quit.

My choice, I know, I could possibly die from cancer... from smoking... or pretty much anything I do. I'm over it.

Originally posted by wiser3
reply to post by YouSir

 

I have one question for Cabin "all the smoking propaganda in the movies"? What century are you living in?
I watch many movies and I can't remember when last I actually saw someone light up! I believe that smoking in movies HAS BEEN BANNED!

no, it's not banned...but it's mostly portrayed in a negative light...like only the villain smokes, or some other rubbish like that..

i personally like it when i see someone in a movie smoking..it's more realistic. people smoke, it's a fact...no need to hide it, or portray smokers as bad people..

Originally posted by SilentKillah
From my position... as a smoker who wants to quit, I can say that there are many times that I walk into 7 Eleven to get some water and wish that I hadn't seen tobacco products behind the counter. Had I not thought about them, I wouldn't have bought another pack in many instances.

so, because you're weak-willed, and have a self-control defect, it's a good idea to inconvenience others, and hurt businesses?

if you're trying to quit, then quit. do it, stick to it, and don't try to blame your fortitude deficiencies on anything other than what you see in the mirror.

Bloomberg is more of a socialist than the socialists! And to think, he used to call himself a republican.