This unbelievable video just made the front page of AOL.com

Originally posted by Atom12
reply to post by NorEaster

 

This video acts as if there is big pile of money in the middle of the room and the rich happen to get there first.
Wrong! Wealth distribution? How about working for it?

They did not work for it.
They bought the government to work for them by drafting foreign and domestic economic policies that have benefited themselves greatly and trashed the country for everyone else which has absolutely nothing to do free market capitalism.

Get the Scumbag Banksters and Traitorous Multinational Corporations out of our government.

A person could argue they have every right to be all over the place since it is a globalist market place, but in that case, seeing they owe no allegiance to anyone country, they have absolutely no right meddling in the political affairs of any one nation's government.

Should foreign nationals have the right to dictate our government policy? Why Not?
Why should it be ok for companies that have greater interests abroad have their nose in our government then?

Originally posted by kloejen
I'd bet if one researched a bit into these super-billionaires, the trail would most likely point at areas in weapon-manufacturing, oil production, army/intelligence.

Follow the money...

Top Ten corporations in the US by rank (2012) are:

1) Exxon
2) Wal Mart
3) Chevron
4) Conoco Phillips
5) General Motors
6) General Electric
7) Berkshire Hathaway
8) Fannie Mae
9) Ford
10) Hewlett Packard

Defense is a small part compared to consumerism. The stuff you buy every day at the gas pump, the store, plus the car you drive around in.

Top Companies

reply to post by Atom12


There is a big pile of MONEY in the room, its in Washington, The trouble is the middle class can get to it before the Paid lobbyist on both sides take it all and spend it, Look at GE Bac GS C These company's would be BK if there was not any Corp welfare... and your ok with that

Originally posted by intrptr

Originally posted by kloejen
I'd bet if one researched a bit into these super-billionaires, the trail would most likely point at areas in weapon-manufacturing, oil production, army/intelligence.

Follow the money...

Top Ten corporations in the US by rank (2012) are:

1) Exxon
2) Wal Mart
3) Chevron
4) Conoco Phillips
5) General Motors
6) General Electric
7) Berkshire Hathaway
8) Fannie Mae
9) Ford
10) Hewlett Packard

Defense is a small part compared to consumerism. The stuff you buy every day at the gas pump, the store, plus the car you drive around in.

Top Companies

edit on 4-3-2013 by intrptr because: link

How is that two of the top 10, GM and Fannie Mae basically had to be rescued by us, the people in the last 5 years or so and the STILL end up being a top 10 Corporation in 2012?????????? They should be lucky to still even be around, where is the punishment for their inept running of their Corporations??? That's what's really wrong with the "system". All the bailouts we did, only allowed these bloated fat Corps to gorge themselves on taxpayer funded bailouts while shafting those same taxpayers after the bailouts as a "thank you".

Yes its seems unfair, but the reality is ...Money makes Money.

So, many of these "Top" people have inherited their money, so just keep investing and the money tree grows bigger.

Also, the more money you appear to have, and appear to be able to pay back, the more money banks will lend you, so you can buy more things to make more money, to borrow more money again....A little like the US Government has done to its people.

Of course the banks charge interest and "Fees", and make more money, from the money they lend to everyone.

A win/win for them.

And the circle goes round.

The bail outs never stopped. they go on every month.. The fed keeps some of these company's afloat by buying there assets. I would like the fed to buy some of my assets and of course let me mark the value of them... That's what the Banks do right now...

Civil disobedience and peaceful revolution are intentional myth and misdirection promoted by the Occult Elite over the course of the last century. The idea that a population could eliminate the ruling class is very old; most successful revolutionary movements employ violence as a means to liberation or at least regime change.

Wealth disparity of the sort identified in the video is probably the most common cause of violent revolution.

The powerful know that the masses can win and in the past have won through armed revolutionary action. A military does not operate as a monolith; not every soldier or officer will fall in lock step to support a corrupt or oppressive regime. This is particularly true when many veterans lead productive civilian lives with close connections to civilian family members, friends and co-workers.

Guns in the United States are less of a threat to the corrupt elite than the simple fact that so many highly trained, combat hardened and competent military professionals and veterans would probably be willing to train, arm and lead a revolutionary component if the cause were just.

This video is a strong argument for the justice of any cause founded upon establishing fairness and transparency in the economic and political systems. It's probably a great demonstration to the powerful that Amendment One is the primary danger, not Amendment Two.

It could also be a bit of bait. Of course, for that matter, so could a lot of the material on ATS. These kinds of websites are a great way for the NSA to avoid having to make a list of people to "disappear" in the event of an uprising. Rather than make a list yourself, you just figure out who frequents these sites...

Originally posted by intrptr

Originally posted by kloejen
I'd bet if one researched a bit into these super-billionaires, the trail would most likely point at areas in weapon-manufacturing, oil production, army/intelligence.

Follow the money...

Top Ten corporations in the US by rank (2012) are:

1) Exxon
2) Wal Mart
3) Chevron
4) Conoco Phillips
5) General Motors
6) General Electric
7) Berkshire Hathaway
8) Fannie Mae
9) Ford
10) Hewlett Packard

Defense is a small part compared to consumerism. The stuff you buy every day at the gas pump, the store, plus the car you drive around in.

Top Companies

edit on 4-3-2013 by intrptr because: link

Using your link, i navigated to Industry->Aerospace and defense.
Then the list looks like this.
(I took the liberty to look up each company to see if i could find any government/military connection)

1) Boeing - "aerospace and defense corporation"
2) United Technologies - "aircraft engines, helicopters"
3) Lockheed Martin - "one of the world's largest defense contractors"
4) Honeywell International - "entered the defense industry in World War II"
5) General Dynamics - "fourth largest defense contractor in the world"
6) Northrop Grumman - "global aerospace and defense technology company"
7) Raytheon - "a major American defense contractor"
8) L-3 Communications - "intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (C3ISR)"
9) Textron - "industrial conglomerate that includes Bell Helicopter"
10) Goodrich - "aerospace manufacturing company"

Then try to compare that to the top 10 defense contractors
Listing only US companies...

1) Lockheed Martin
2) Boeing
3) General Dynamics
4) Raytheon
5) Northrop Grumman
6) L-3 Communications
7) United Technologies Corporation
8) SAIC
9) Huntington Ingalls Industries
10) Honeywell



Its rather ironic that the fastest growing company is a pharmaceutical drug company named Allergan

reply to post by kloejen


According to Forbes the top categories are: Investing, Technology, and Energy.

Which makes sense considering how much of those products are utilized by everyone, either in piece or in whole.

♫ Land of the poor...
And the home of the greedy ♫

All I know is that historically humans seems to fall back on the tried and true methods when equality is so out of whack. And in case you don't get the point I am making, think pitchforks, torches, guillotines and whatnot.

To be clear, I am in no way calling for anything of the sort, but I'd dare say when the tipping point comes it'll be like a lightning strike in a dry grassy field.

the singular reason for this disparity lies in understanding the difference between ....

making money

and

generating value



...I really am at a loss here. whatever can we do?

Thank you, NorEaster. I posted this vid to my facebook page this morning. Talking to a friend this afternoon I said I could only see 3 ways this situation could change: 1. The elite have a spiritual awakening. 2. Revolution. 3. Alien invasion. I had to laugh because I believe an Alien invasion to be the most likely scenario, as the first two seem incredibly unlikely. I really admire how well you respond to criticism, keep up the good work.

Originally posted by tgidkp
the singular reason for this disparity lies in understanding the difference between ....

making money

and

generating value

...I really am at a loss here. whatever can we do?

Well said tgidkp, you hit the nail on the head. I advise nations on systemic methods to avoid corruption and cronyism. Socialism is not our main challenge, Cronyism is. Cronyism is a type of mafia condition where elite people make their profit by who they know and the connections they have, and not through innovation, competition, market savvy, velocity of money, creativity, ideas, inspiration, sexiness, and fun. Cronyists pretend to do Capital Business.

I recently started a venture with a Wall Street connected friend of the political elite, presuming immediate credibility towards his business prowess since he was worth over 1.2 billion. I was sadly mistaken as he had no ability to determine executive savvy, did not understand the first thing about a P&L statement, no idea of market and brand development, and made horrible operating decisions which he ethically should have left to the managers who were in charge of that. The partnership crumbled fast as he continued to become more and more critically blind and dysfunctional.

In the end, I caught him paying off the stockholder's lawyers to get them to let slip by super majority voting right adjustments which would give him full ability to dilute the company and take control and sell out the minority stockholders for a paltry sum per share. I alerted the stock-holdership as soon as I found out what was happening, as ethically I should, and the corporation dissolved.

He had only made his money through manipulation, payoffs to govmt officials to give him advantage on real estate deals, screwing his employees and partners, connections inside of sure thing set-ups which Wall Street concocts and deals out to their cronies. Being friends with political elites who then would give him big position in sure thing deals. Make $200 million over night for doing really nothing.

He had never actually really run a business.

This was not capitalism and free enterprise - It was Cronyism. And I met the BIG names on Wall Street in this process. Elitism and Cronyism, the same thing that keeps science from advancing - through fake Elitist SSkepticism... Cronyism is more damaging than socialism, and its end state is always eventually bloodshed. I work hard with several nations right now to adjust their capital, ownership and taxation policies, to not recreate what we have in the US. They simply cannot afford to replicate this.

The purpose of your work is to provide Value. Period.

If you take a dollar and provide no compensatory value back to the economy for that dollar - you contribute to inflation - and deposit suffering onto everyone else's shoulders, to make up for you.

There is a solution.

SHOULD HAVE?

I really hate this statement in the video...

Who is anyone to take what i earn and say someone else SHOULD have it?

To me it is just delusional to think this way...

We as americans are becoming the spoiled brats weve been coddled to believe we are. Im sorry but people are successful, people fail, and some people, if their lucky, balance the two. I personally do not give one lead lined hot bucket of crap what the rich do with their money. ITS NOT MINE. Sorry fellow americans, we dont always get to win because were american. Last time i checked it takes a hell of alot of hard work to get ahead in this world and unless you are willing to do that...its simple...you wont. But to cry about the balance of wealth is not only delusional it diminishes the value of the things that people have earned and worked for.

Theres no personal pride left in this country evidently.....i may not make as much as Bill Gates, but i dont cry and think its unfair....i take pride in the job i do and the ablility to provide for my family. Because ive worked hard for what i have...and therefore value it.

So sick of this i want what hes got ..but dont want to earn it mentality.

So if you want wealth....you SHOULD go out and find it...but dont cry to me that its hard to find and try to "redistribute" mine. Welcome to the real world...if you sink or swim...its all your fault.

Grow Up America

I understand and believe in working hard for money.


But how do you work hard for billions as a normal person with no family money?

reply to post by kloejen

Not sure your point? Your list is the top ten defense contractors but not the top ten of the fortune 500 list. The highest number on your list is Boeing, ranked 39.

Wal Mart is number 2.

reply to post by Instructoralpha


Mate, I am not American but blind Freddy can see the injustice that is going on with wealth distribution around the world. I am sure many that cry poor do so because they in fact remember a time when you got a fair days pay for a fair days work.
But not anymore, the so called technological revolution has killed off far more jobs then has been created.
Leaving many semi skilled hard working souls unemployable. The only people who have prospered from this are those at the top, and the hard working stiffs at the bottom watch as the bank forecloses on the house they have struggled to pay off for 20 years.
How dare you have no feeling for those worse off. Enjoy your wealth Mr 1% er. Your time is coming.

reply to post by Miraj


Im not saying that corruption and unfair advantages dont exist. They absolutely do.

How do you work for billions without family money?

Well first, TRY

Then TRY harder

Then TRY harder than that.

The thing about those family money people we keep talking about, they probably had a great great grandad somewhere who didnt have a pot to piss in at one time.

Do you think Bill Gates KNEW microsoft would be what it is today when he was soldering wires in his garage?

But, i see how that cant work for modern america, we gotta have it now. Handed to us, opportunities thrown at us, doors opened for us, because lately we have this sense of entitlement that is keeping us from understanding that it has to start somewhere, and its never going to just happen. We expect someone to hand it to us because we think we deserve it. We forgot how to make things happen for ourselves.

or PLAY A LOT OF LOTTO.

Originally posted by Ghost375
reply to post by Happy1

 

So the big corporations are going to ruin their comfy lifestyle to install communism?
You realize they'd have to give up their wealth, right?
'
Do you people know what communism is?

First: LOL @ "you people"

Second: you obviously don't know yourself. If you had ever heard of the "Soviet Union" or a place called "China", you would know that both had/have an ultra-wealthy, lavish-lifestyle class.