Only 2% of people on welfare tested for drugs in florida came up with positive drug tests.

reply to post by Anundeniabletruth

the problem is not the corporations,

it is the government cronies who are in bed with the corporations.

and the constant devaluation of the currency.

corporations take advantage of the laws written by politicians.

The church used to help the needy and in those days tithings were 10% of gross wages and everybody paid it cause everyone was religious. I think I'll pay, proudly pay my .45 cents in taxes each week to help the needy.
It sure beats waking up in the middle of the night with a blade to my neck and the last thing I see is my wife being murdered cause the poor decided to help themselves to my wealth!

they should test the politicians, what the hell are they smokin because i want some lol jk
while they are at it they should test the bankers and wall street!

Originally posted by conspiracy nut
i dont know about that, my sister in law stubbed her toe (she lives in florida) and they prescribed her oxycotin yikes!!!

btw she is not on welfare.

Sure it wasn't Oxycodone? People commonly mix up the two. Its still a narcotic, but, not nearly as powerful as Oxycontin. The names are similar enough that it is easy to mix them up.

I could maybe see Oxycodone for a broken toe depending how bad it was, but, not Oxycontin. If they are seriously handing out that powerful of a pill for something so minor as a broken toe, its no wonder that they have a prescription drug abuse problem in the area.

reply to post by bjax9er


Please continue to ignore the fact that Rick Scott is personally making money off these tests he signed into law. Because that's what ats is about, ignorance.

reply to post by daryllyn


Again, I think this is a one off case. Read the trouble my wife is going through since we moved to ft Lauderdale. She's not a dr shopper. She is prescribed 10mg percs, and yet can't even get those with verified letters from her surgeons in Nevada.

reply to post by muse7


How many of those kids, percentage wise, were eating trash? More than today? By how much?

Oh, and then there's this.

The same thing, often in much more drastic terms, happened to many other voluntary organizations that once occupied the roles currently more or less filled by government social welfare programs. In 1920, for example, something like 3500 different fraternal orders existed in the United States, and around 50% of the country’s adult population—counting both genders and all ethnic groups, by the way—belonged to at least one of them. Reasons for belonging ranged across the whole spectrum of human social phenomena, but there were hard pragmatic reasons to put in a petition for membership at your local lodge of the Odd Fellows, Knights of Pythias, or what have you: at a time when employers generally didn’t provide sick pay and other benefits for employees, most fraternal orders did.

A few things are missing here. How many people declined to be tested? Has the number of people applying gone up or down? How much is the state saving on the people who declined to be tested? Something tells me this source isn't telling the whole story.

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i could be mistaking the 2, i'll ask. thanks for bringing that to my attention.

Originally posted by daryllyn
It just goes to show that the stereotype of the lazy, drug addicted, welfare queen sitting atop her throne of government cheese is not nearly as common as some would have everyone believe.

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To be honest, it's not that hard to pass a drug test even when you use... There are numerous masking/cleansing products out there and there are "other" means of passing drug tests, like the Whizzinator... I'm just saying that it's very possible, quite easy, and lots of people who use are clever and know how to do one with the other.

Originally posted by anton74
A few things are missing here. How many people declined to be tested? Has the number of people applying gone up or down? How much is the state saving on the people who declined to be tested? Something tells me this source isn't telling the whole story.

read the source, click on bold underlined words for more details. thanks for replying to my thread.

Originally posted by jhn7537

Originally posted by daryllyn
It just goes to show that the stereotype of the lazy, drug addicted, welfare queen sitting atop her throne of government cheese is not nearly as common as some would have everyone believe.

edit on 3-3-2013 by daryllyn because: (no reason given)

To be honest, it's not that hard to pass a drug test even when you use... There are numerous masking/cleansing products out there and there are "other" means of passing drug tests, like the Whizzinator... I'm just saying that it's very possible, quite easy, and lots of people who use are clever and know how to do one with the other.

if u read source and click on further links in source, it says 96% passed, 2% failed that leaves 2% i believe that 2% had the watered down pee commonly found when using a masking agent. worse case scenario 4% failed.

reply to post by conspiracy nut


I guess you missed the part about the whizzinator or other products like that. They are VERY common today... But the story here is why do people deserve money for nothing??? Welfare recipients are leaching off this country and I'm sick of paying for them and I know many others are too...

Originally posted by conspiracy nut

Originally posted by anton74
A few things are missing here. How many people declined to be tested? Has the number of people applying gone up or down? How much is the state saving on the people who declined to be tested? Something tells me this source isn't telling the whole story.

read the source, click on bold underlined words for more details. thanks for replying to my thread.

Sry, I thought I read them all. I would bet my life savings that if the other 2306 had agreed to be tested, we would be much higher than 2%. How much money would be saved or lost by these people not getting welfare should be the real question.

Originally posted by jhn7537
reply to post by conspiracy nut

 

I guess you missed the part about the whizzinator or other products like that. They are VERY common today... But the story here is why do people deserve money for nothing??? Welfare recipients are leaching off this country and I'm sick of paying for them and I know many others are too...

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we wouldn't have so many leeches if the biggest leeches in this country didn't outsource millions of jobs. i'm sick of those big leeches and i know many are too.

reply to post by anton74


Law enforcement against prohibition (LEAP) had a presentation a few years back that presented the drug addition rate before and after narcotic prohibition was about 1%. So if 2% are regular users (enough to get pop hot on test) then welfare has double the drug addition rate. Does that warrant testing? Meh, probably not, as those people will probably get swooped up in a drug raid at some point effectively taking them off the rolls.

reply to post by conspiracy nut


Its called smart business.... Businesses are around to turn a profit, not staff USA, if they can get cheap labor somewhere else they are being smart business man/women... Unions got a little too demanding and these trade workers felt they deserved these incredible pay packages for doing a job a 3rd worker could do for pennies on the dollar... I'll never blame a company for making a smart decision...But you're right, socialism does sound nice...

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smart business? with your logic slavery was smart business too i bet. that way of thinking is whats going to turn this country into china. last i checked china is communist. smart business is going to a communist country to lower your labor costs in the name of freedom? do you see how messed up that is?

Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to post by bjax9er

 

Please continue to ignore the fact that Rick Scott is personally making money off these tests he signed into law. Because that's what ats is about, ignorance.

oh really?
how much exactly did he make?

i thought the thread was about waste, and civil rights.

reply to post by conspiracy nut


Comparing a paid worker to a slave is a poor comparison. And you are looking at the extremes to make your point, not evaluating both ends of the spectrum. And I've said this once and I'll say it again. If you're a good worker, you can find work here in this country. I can leave my job tomorrow and have a new one in days, I have recruiters hounding me weekly with great opportunities. So to act like there are no good jobs here is crazy (like so many do)... If you're great at what you do, you will find work, if you can't find work, maybe you're not as good as you think.