yes i agree, it is a technical issue not paranormal

but the point is...its true to them
it only exists in that individuals head


peace

buddy of mine, guitar player, was convinced Jimi Hendrix was posessed; he said no normal human could do to a guitar what Hendrix did.

I was at a Bible college circa 1980. A bunch of us started into D&D and asked the admin for permission to start an official *** College Gaming Society. The admin investigated what we were doing and banned D&D. Did not want witchcraft etc on campus.
a year later the school drama group's official production was...The Wizard of Oz. (no witches there, ahem...)

the admin was neither stupid nor evil; they were just caught in the beginnings of a very confusing and spiritually tumultous time. D&D was unfamiliar and sounded dangerous; Wizard was an old 30s movie they remembered from their childhood and presumably harmless. I suspect some in my generation are fond of our D&D stuff but are miffed at our kid's FPS/video stuff.

I still remember all the urban legends of disappearing children being used for satanic sacrifice (great X-files epi about same; think was called 'Szygy'). apparently, not one actual case proven. A lot of older Church people readily believed and repeated these tales; it fitted their world view about end times and evil activity.
Ha ha! Silly church people! the world has just gotten better and better!

Completely agree with you, to be honest I've found myself looking at these threads intrigued but always coming out disappointed, it seems some people just look for any small sign and over-exaggerate it. One that made me laugh was showing artists doing the 'devil horns' hand gesture and claiming they do it to make their fans worship Satan.

I've done it thousands of times, even at a Black Sabbath gig last year and worshipping Satan has never really crossed my mind.

Originally posted by bdb818888
Its all a big act, the managers of the music industry tell the musicians or pop stars to say they are possessed or worship the devil, they use this tacit to generate sales.

How exactly does this generate sales? Please explain this to me.

And most of these artists have admitted to being interested in spiritualism.

Go look up Santana and his visions of Metatron telling him he was going to be hooked up with the greatest musicians of the day.

If one of your friends told you they were spoken to be a spirit who said they were going to be a huge rockstar you would drag their crazy ass to the psych ward not put them on a stage to perform some of the greatest guitar solos of the era.

Then you actors like Denzel W saying he gets on his knees and prays to the spirit world for help in performing a scene.

Oprah goes on about consulting here spirit guides while walking in the forest.


They all talk about this AFTER they have made it big, not while they are blowing up. There is NO reason to spout the crazy talk that comes out of their lips at this point.

Of course it is easier to just ignore the actual words being spoken by these people to go on living you fantasy, but the trend seems to be that many many famous and successful artists actually believe that they are influenced by the spirit world or they are all in on some hilarious inside joke to make the general public believe some ridiculous story about spirits.

Or you could read some literature written by one Alistair Crowley and actually have a clue of these folks go about it.

w/e enjoy yourself, don't worry about a thing nothing to see here.

Originally posted by bdb818888
Its all a big act, the managers of the music industry tell the musicians or pop stars to say they are possessed or worship the devil, they use this tacit to generate sales.

This has been going on far longer then the internet. Most people did not have this information before the internet. You think it started in the 60's? Try 20's....

Unless you've actually studied what these things are, and what the signs mean.

Yes.. it all looks like claptrap.. dribble... rich folks being silly and all that.

There's a reason some of us *that aren't Religious zealots thank you* are all over this like a rash.

Elvis was controversial, he outraged folks with his hip swaying.. that WAS hysteria
For a long time.. much of the hysteria was unfounded.. and when you look back at it with folks confessions of deals the true puppets of Satan went under the radar.. as they were fobbed off as "just hippes" but also.. that was a different time, music/entertainment wasn't the mass media tool it is now. you'd sway a few.. but the drop in the pond was tiny in comparison to today's electronic medium.

D&D.. lol.. we all know D&D was grossly misunderstood, but here's why..
You sit at a board, normally in a circle, invoking *chance* at every play.. you held magic cards with powers and consulted them for you next move... WE know it was just a game.. but to a zealot, you may as well be sitting around a Ouija reading tarot cards... It wasn't the game,it was the symbolism that set off alarm bells, and the fact that none of us had a clue about what was so *evil* made them even more fearful... as that's.. kinda a sign.

So now we have today, and signs far worse than a D&D game are being fed into your psyhce on an hourly basis, your kids emulate these popstars on the playground.. and it all becomes the new norm.

That's why were freaked, Because when Satan convinces man he doesn't exist.. to a point where he can send the AC and you'll all think he's some awesome guy with cool powers... your screwed.

Guess what...

Originally posted by Unsustainable
Completely agree with you, to be honest I've found myself looking at these threads intrigued but always coming out disappointed, it seems some people just look for any small sign and over-exaggerate it. One that made me laugh was showing artists doing the 'devil horns' hand gesture and claiming they do it to make their fans worship Satan.

I've done it thousands of times, even at a Black Sabbath gig last year and worshipping Satan has never really crossed my mind.

Do these youtube video's do not justice. You are missing larger piece of the puzzle. Such as many artist, celebrity's producers ect... saying they are involved in this. Do some research before you dismiss it.

Originally posted by Infi8nity

Originally posted by Unsustainable
Completely agree with you, to be honest I've found myself looking at these threads intrigued but always coming out disappointed, it seems some people just look for any small sign and over-exaggerate it. One that made me laugh was showing artists doing the 'devil horns' hand gesture and claiming they do it to make their fans worship Satan.

I've done it thousands of times, even at a Black Sabbath gig last year and worshipping Satan has never really crossed my mind.

Do these youtube video's do not justice. You are missing larger piece of the puzzle. Such as many artist, celebrity's producers ect... saying they are involved in this. Do some research before you dismiss it.

I don't dismiss it at all, I am actually a music student so these type of things interest me greatly. It's just that I haven't seen too much evidence for it, although I can understand why people would believe that there are higher powers involved in getting these people where they are. As you said though I should do my own research rather than listening to the rants of others, my comment was only concerning the videos and posts I've seen that seem over-exaggerated.

Originally posted by Unsustainable

Originally posted by Infi8nity

Originally posted by Unsustainable
Completely agree with you, to be honest I've found myself looking at these threads intrigued but always coming out disappointed, it seems some people just look for any small sign and over-exaggerate it. One that made me laugh was showing artists doing the 'devil horns' hand gesture and claiming they do it to make their fans worship Satan.

I've done it thousands of times, even at a Black Sabbath gig last year and worshipping Satan has never really crossed my mind.

Do these youtube video's do not justice. You are missing larger piece of the puzzle. Such as many artist, celebrity's producers ect... saying they are involved in this. Do some research before you dismiss it.

I don't dismiss it at all, I am actually a music student so these type of things interest me greatly. It's just that I haven't seen too much evidence for it, although I can understand why people would believe that there are higher powers involved in getting these people where they are. As you said though I should do my own research rather than listening to the rants of others, my comment was only concerning the videos and posts I've seen that seem over-exaggerated.

Keep in mind that their is all so allot of disinformation out their to make topics such as this seem dumb. Allot of the video's on youtube are just that.