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Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by daskakik
I am sorry but your opinion or interpretation of the facts are not more convincing than the facts themselves.
You got that right. Even with the facts stripped of my interpretation you refuse to acknowledge them, to the point of even disregarding the facts that you posted.
That is one strong chain you have there. Might want to break that one before trying to free mankind of the evil chains of hope.
"Exit stage left."
haven't proven anything other than a propensity to make a big deal out of a non issue and to disregard facts, even when posted by you.
Courage is knowing what not to fear. faith
Desires are only the lack of something: and those who have the greatest desires are in a worse condition hope than those who have none, or very slight ones. faith
Ignorance, the root and the stem of every evil. hope
The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. hope
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. hope
Wise men talk because they have something to say faith ; fools, because they have to say something. hope
The partisan, when he is engaged in a dispute, cares nothing about the rights of the question, but is anxious only to convince his hearers of his own assertions. hope
Everything that deceives may be said to enchant. hope
There is in every one of us, even those who seem to be most moderate, a type of desire that is terrible, wild, and lawless. hope
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by Panic2k11
Hope is more realistic because you don't know what the future outcomes will be.
Having faith that something will happen is reckless because its not possible to simply "will" things to be.
I hope I do well on my mid-term next week. That is reasonable.
Having faith I'm going to do well is unrealistic because I simply don't know if I've prepared enough. I hope I did.
Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
also faith is bitter bitter sweat, and increasingly harder to muster. Stark and unnerving. Faith is exhausting. The path unpaved.
Hope is addictive and sedative. It makes you dependent and keeps you coming back for more. It is the trenched road to ruin. The easy path of convenience.
A junkie will have hope that "one day" he will have a good life....after this next hit. He never tries so he never addresses the fear of failure.
The rehabilitated drug user faced his demons and had faith in himself so he overcame the scary thought of trying and starting from rock bottom. He faced the fear of possibly failing but he also had through faith, the resolve to pick himself up again should he fall of the path to rehabilitation.
• noun: 1 a feeling of expectation and desire for something to happen. 2 a person or thing that gives cause for hope.
• verb: 1 expect and want something to happen. 2 intend if possible to do something.
It derives from Old English hopian, which means to wish or look forward to something; hopian in turn derives from hoffen in Low German. It may be related to hop, which is Old English for leaping forward, in the sense of leaping foward in expectation.
1complete trust or confidence in someone or something:
this restores one’s faith in politicians
2strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof:
In Greek mythology, Elpis (Ancient Greek: ἐλπίς) was the personification and spirit of hope (hope was usually seen as an extension to suffering by the Greek, not as a god), perhaps a child of Nyx and mother of Pheme, the goddess of fame, renown and rumor. She was depicted as a young woman, usually carrying flowers or cornucopia in her hands. In Hesiod's Works and Days, Elpis was the last item in Pandora's box (or jar). Based on Hesiod's description, the debate is still alive to determine if Elpis was only hope, or more generally expectation.
In the Greek New Testament, the word “faith” is mostly “pistis” and the words “believe” or “believed” are mostly “pisteuo”. Vine states: “The main elements in faith in its relation to the invisible God, as distinct from faith in man, are especially brought out in the use of this noun (‘pistis’) and the corresponding verb, ‘pisteuo’; they are (1) a firm conviction, producing a full acknowledgement of God’s revelation or truth e.g, 2 Thessalonians 2:11,12. (2) a personal surrender to Him, John 1:12; (3) a conduct inspired by such surrender, 2 Corinthians 5:7. Prominence is given to one or other of these elements according to the context”.
Old English hopian "wish, expect, look forward (to something)," of unknown origin, a general North Sea Germanic word (cf. Old Frisian hopia, Middle Low German, Middle Dutch, Dutch hopen; Middle High German hoffen "to hope," borrowed from Low German).
Although very existentialist in its characterizations, Waiting for Godot is primarily about hope. The play revolves around Vladimir and Estragon and their pitiful wait for hope to arrive. At various times during the play, hope is constructed as a form of salvation, in the personages of Pozzo and Lucky, or even as death. The subject of the play quickly becomes an example of how to pass the time in a situation which offers no hope. Thus the theme of the play is set by the beginning:
Estragon: Nothing to be done.
Vladimir: I'm beginning to come round to that opinion.
Although the phrase is used in connection to Estragon's boots here, it is also later used by Vladimir with respect to his hat. Essentially it describes the hopelessness of their lives.
Faith is reason grown courageous.
Faith... must be enforced by reason.... When faith becomes blind it dies.
Faith is the daring of the soul to go farther than it can see
William Newton Clarke
Faith in oneself is the best and safest course.
Scepticism is the beginning of Faith.
Originally posted by applecore
now I see hope as something we just do. I think like a bit of a wish, a desire. like doing a bit of magic.