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I'm not a "Hand Gun" guy. I prefer rifles.
More insidious if the situation warrants.
Originally posted by Golf66
As a retired Special Forces Officer I have some differing views on these type things that have evolved over the years.
When I was a younger man I'd pack all manner of items just in case. A lot of stupid crap to be honest. Often loading out at 80-90lbs plus of # for a 96 hour mission. However, one must understand that a good portion of those things were mission essential and often different depending on the operation.
I was an 18C at first so I had all manner of detonators, composites and different kinds of destructive things that go boom (cord/C4/Thermites/Smoke/and frags) along with short range commo gear and personal ammo for my primary and secondary weapons and sometimes 60mm mortar rounds if we had one for the mission (we all carried 6 or so rounds).
As I got older I carried less and less of the things I’d like to have and just toughed it out comfort wise to save weight as age took its toll on the back and knees.
Weapons were a primary M4 or MP5 (depending) and as the 18C breach man I had a tactical shotgun along with two side arms and breaching loads. Personal night vision devices were a must along with the various batteries to power the devices.
However, later as an Officer it changed to mostly radio equipment and back up medical supplies along with a good mix of random mission items cross loaded for redundancy. My personal weapon at that point was primarily the MP5 as I didn’t shoot all that much - I spent more time leading than fighting. However, I often carried the SOCOM M1 (as my choice) because - well I could and as a former sniper my mid-long range skills came in handy if needed.
We learned in SERE to carry things in layers that could be shed if needed from ruck to LBE down to our uniforms eventually and if necessary even them for local clothing and some personal items in the pockets if we needed to move more quickly.
In the rucksack were personal comfort items (Sleeping bags, stoves, extra ammo, and heavy items like long range commo gear and MREs or long range rations stripped down for weight mitigation.
If you had to run you could in effect drop all that # (rigged to blow with thermite and or C4 on a timed fuse between 30-60 seconds for a nasty surprise sometimes a claymore) and still have in your load bearing gear.
Inside of that is basic load of ammunition short range commo along with a GPS and basic first aid packs along with a second side arm and some frags and smokes for signaling. A few energy bars and another few main meals could be carried in the pouches along with the personal hydration and filtration system for water. A poncho liner and or field jacket liner will stuff into a small pouch. The ballistic plates and eventually the vest can be dumped as well as weight becomes an issue.
Final layer was inside your actual pockets of the uniform - maps the area local and to the nearest international boarder, a Silva compass, the emergency transponder goes into the top pocket of the uniform with a lanyard around the neck so it can’t be lost. A hip rig with your final sidearm and a few mags (4-5); energy bars in a belt pouch and a hydration system next to your back along with filters. Some fire making equipment, perhaps some wire for a snare or two and fishing line sewn into the lining of a shirt and a space blanket.
Also, we carried a fair amount of local currency and gold coins to barter for safe passage and assistance in extraction and bribes.
You can shed things in layers to pick up speed and combat fatigue.
Not really a BUG out plan more of a combat E&E but perhaps it will help someone.
Originally posted by Philippines
Thanks for this post. It was a much needed breath of fresh air - someone posting knowledge from their experience! I found value in it, thanks.
Originally posted by Philippines
I do find it very interesting the military acknowledges the value of gold. What kind of coins were they? Unmarked bullion?
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