I am pretty much a newbie here, I found this site when trying to look for a site that I once knew that had lots and lots of interesting 'conspiracy'
type videos - those videos were sleek and looked like they were made very expensively and professionally. But I can't remember the name of the site,
and I never found it. But I did remember something about 'above top secret' being not only a military classification, but also some kind of a website,
and I was hoping this was it.
Clearly, it wasn't..
To get to the point, my newbie status means that I am not the ones the poster that I am replying to meant, and it also means that my words probably
don't weigh much, but I agree with the assessment that maybe the old school posters 'jumped train' and do not want to be part of all that gun stuff.
I mean, I can't know whether that's true or not, of course - what I mean is that in my opinion, the whole gun war is just so irrelevant and stupid. I
can see it's relevance from the point of view of violating people's owner rights, and as far as Law is concerned, it being a theft to take a gun away
from someone who owns it, no matter who does it. Unless of course the 'owner' has 'registered' it (regis = king, to register = to transfer ownership
to the government), in which case the true owner can take the gun away from the 'user' any time he wants.
It's not such a clear-cut case of whether people have "right to bear arms" (and how can it be known that they didn't mean 'claws of bears'?, though
that would be as cruel as meat eating, especially if the bears are not killed - they probably didn't mean that humans have the right to genetically
engineer themselves to grow actual bear arms) or not, because of the 'consent' and 'legal system' and the whole 'person' and 'registration' thing.
Basically it means that people with guns fall under two categories:
A) If someone has registered their gun, identifies with being a person, has consented to being governed by a legal system, and is thus in effect a
government employee, who has to obey the government rules (so instead of being a human being that is the MASTER of the government, that the government
has to serve, he is now working UNDER government rules and regulations, and is thus basically slave of the government), there is no legal or lawful
argument - that individual must give their gun away if the government so commands. Arguing about it is useless.
B) If someone hasn't, doesn't, hasn't, and thus isn't, then of course the gun is like any other property, an adult human being owns it completely,
and anyone trying to take it away without his/her consent is a thief, and can be prosecuted under Common Law. Arguing about this is also useless.
I think the existence of guns is a serious sign of a really awful mental and psychological, plus also spiritual sickness/illness and madness, I don't
really feel comfortable with discussing this, nor do I think it's useful in any way. If you don't have a gun, you don't have a gun problem. If you
have a gun, you fall into either category A or B. There is no useful discussion to be had about that, but because of all the complexities that people
want to bring into it, and because it seems to be a very emotional, almost animalistic topic for many, these discussions get messed up and are full of
false information, lies and emotional rhetorics that I rather stay away from.
Basically, the whole 'gun issue' is a worthless hassle for me, who wouldn't be able to murder anyone anyway, and who does not like to spend any time
thinking of any scenarios involving a gun in any way.
Jesus didn't tell us to get guns so we can blow people's and animals' brains out if they threaten us or start using a bit too insulting a 'tone'.
He told us the human way is to not get involved with fights, arguments and wars, but instead just turn the other cheek, even though it's painful. That
way we create PEACE.
With GUNS we only prepare for situations where they will be used. With guns, there are wars. Without guns, there could be peace.
It's just as lawful to own a gun, though, as it's to own a raping machine or an infant-skinning device. But it's also just as insane in my opinion.
These are some of the reasons why I rather talk about something better, something more interesting, and something more 'relevant' to me than guns.
Guns will be relevant to me only if someone shoots me, and if that's my Karma, it'll happen anyway - and if it isn't, it won't happen anyway, so what
would I gain by discussing it here?
The only thing more useless than guns is debate about them or 'gun control'. I think 'gun control' is wrong, if it's done unlawfully, but I think the
existence of guns is wrong as well, because their whole point is MURDER (which is unlawful) and INJURING of others (which is also unlawful), and side
effects include destruction, wounding, loss of blood and sanity, and creating immense amounts of fear. I don't see any constructive use for guns,
unlike knives and swords.
edit on 10-2-2013 by Shoujikina because: (no reason given)