Barack 'Hussein' Obama

reply to post by shivaX


Do you refer to Joe Biden as Joseph 'Robinette' Biden, or is it only politicians with Islamic sounding middle names that get your special attention?

Originally posted by shivaX

Originally posted by WaterBottle
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Emphasizing the "Husein" in his name is nothing but xenophobia or racism. You can play dumb all you want, I don't care.

And that is your personal opinion.

No, it isn't. It's common sense. There's no reason so emphasize his middle name unless you're trying to appeal to him being a "foreigner" or not "one of us".

Originally posted by WaterBottle

Originally posted by shivaX

Originally posted by WaterBottle
reply to post by shivaX

 

Emphasizing the "Husein" in his name is nothing but xenophobia or racism. You can play dumb all you want, I don't care.

And that is your personal opinion.

No, it isn't. It's common sense. There's no reason so emphasize his middle name unless you're trying to appeal to him being a "foreigner" or not "one of us".

Oh so you think that people with middle names are 'foreigner'.
That is your individual problem.

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Originally posted by shivaX
Its not relevant.

But his name is.

How is his name relevant to his competence?

Is "Hussein-care" by any chance a bad joke of a healthcare system because of his middlename?

reply to post by ColCurious


That's because he is better known as Obama and not by 'Barack' or 'Hussein'.

Is "Barack-care" by any chance a bad joke of a healthcare system because of his firstname?

It's because of Saddam Hussein and the fact that the name is Middle Eastern. Invoking the similarity in names is a convenient way to insult the president.
I don't accept the backtracking excuse of, "what's the big deal, it's just a middle name." You don't emphasize your middle name like the world depends on hearing every syllable slowly enunciated, do you?

reply to post by michael1983l


There is a difference between Joe Biden and Obama.

Obama is the president and is therefore more widely known.
He is also accountable for his country's actions around the world.

Whereas Biden is only accountable to his country.

Originally posted by shivaX

Originally posted by WaterBottle

Originally posted by shivaX

Originally posted by WaterBottle
reply to post by shivaX

 

Emphasizing the "Husein" in his name is nothing but xenophobia or racism. You can play dumb all you want, I don't care.

And that is your personal opinion.

No, it isn't. It's common sense. There's no reason so emphasize his middle name unless you're trying to appeal to him being a "foreigner" or not "one of us".

Oh so you think that people with middle names are 'foreigner'.
That is your individual problem.

Oh, you're still playing dumb. How cute.

Originally posted by shivaX
reply to post by ColCurious

 

That's because he is better known as Obama and not by 'Barack' or 'Hussein'.

Again, the relevance of his middlename's prominence in regards to his political competence?

reply to post by WaterBottle


Calling someone by their original name is 'playing dumb'?

OK

Originally posted by ColCurious

Originally posted by shivaX
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That's because he is better known as Obama and not by 'Barack' or 'Hussein'.

Again, the relevance of his middlename's prominence in regards to his political competence?

relevance of his middlename's prominence

Any evidence for your claim?
Or are you all bluff?

It's not a matter of innocently calling him by his name. Muslim and Middle Eastern origins are a stigma in this society, and people who emphasize his middle name know that and are using it as an insult.

Why no drama over referring to the last president as "dubya"?

Why is it that if someone points out anything about the current resident of the WH, that they are automatically racist?

Originally posted by EllaMarina
It's not a matter of innocently calling him by his name. Muslim and Middle Eastern origins are a stigma in this society, and people who emphasize his middle name know that and are using it as an insult.

1) Yes your opinion is true. I am not denying it and some people do it for that particular purpose.
2) But that does not mean that we stop using his middle name because it is middle-eastern.

I guess I can see where you're coming from, but I don't recall ever seeing his name in quotation marks. If you can provide examples of this I would be more inclined to believe you. Do you have any links to articles with Hussein in quotation marks?

As for myself, I always use my middle name because I like it and I have an extremely common last name.

Originally posted by shivaX
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Calling someone by their original name is 'playing dumb'?

OK

The whole thread is about emphasizing Obama's middle name as if it holds some sort of importance. Which it doesn't, and never will.

The only reason why someone would emphasize it is to appeal to low IQ racists and Islamaphobes. That's it.

Originally posted by shivaX
reply to post by michael1983l

 

There is a difference between Joe Biden and Obama.

Obama is the president and is therefore more widely known.
He is also accountable for his country's actions around the world.

Whereas Biden is only accountable to his country.

Oh come on, stop playing the game. Joe Biden is the vice President and could become your President at any time should anything happen to Obama. The fact that you refer to Obama by his full name because he is the president, but nobody else deserves that treatment, is by any means a very weak argument for saying he should have his middle name quoted all of the time. Why can't you just admit, that you quote that name to promote you political view of him and know that refering to him as being muslim, will indeed gain you supporters from the haters.

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Originally posted by shivaX
Any evidence for your claim?
Or are you all bluff?

MY claim?
What claim?!

YOU said his name was relevant to his political competence.
I asked you HOW?

WTF?!?!

reply to post by WaterBottle


That is your opinion and you have right to have one.

reply to post by shivaX


And it's your right to play dumb

You're not fooling anyone but yourself and your like kind.