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Originally posted by GafferUK1981
Of course Jesus didn't make mistakes, he's a fictional character, he did whatever the writer decided he did.
I'm sorry if this reply is not what you asked for but you can't start a thread and then decide what replies are acceptable, especially on a topic as ridiculous as this.
Originally posted by Murgatroid
To answer your question: The actual number is likely closer to 200 million.
Adding in these deaths might explain the commonly quoted figure of 100 million killed by the Papacy. Adding in non-Christians killed in Europe might explain some of the higher figures. Adding in the total killed assuming half a percent killed per year in Europe for four hundred years would yield about 200 million total killed. Omitting those killed in the New World would yield a total of about 150 million. This might explain where many of the commonly quoted figures come from.
Do you honestly believe that RELIGION is telling you the truth?
Originally posted by SimonPeter
Speaking of Antichrist , the Pope is supposed to be able to forgive sin
And when He had said this, He breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained.” (John 20:22-23 NASB)
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by DelayedChristmas
So, let me get this straight... you complained that no one had ever apologized for the church's repugnant behaviour in the past, I show you that the Pope did, twelve years ago, and your answer is "who cares?" That seems reasonable to you?
Where's the apology on the part of the Anglican, Reformed and Lutherans churches for the thousands of Catholics that they killed during the Reformation? Where's your righteous indignation over that?
The Crusades? That was in reaction to the Islamic invasion of Europe -- if the Catholics apologize for reestablishing Christian access to the Holy Lands, can they expect an apology from the Muslims for taking them in the first place?
For over a thousand years, the Catholic church was the sole protector of the Bible and defender of Christianity, and the Reformation only happened five hundred years ago, so like it or not, if you truly are a Christian, you owe that to the existence and work of the Roman Catholic church.
The title of this thread, "This old man has nothing to do with Jesus" is both shallow and a lie. Whether you like him or not, the Pope is the head of the church that Christ established, and the clothes he wears, food he eats and trees he has outside his apartment has as little to do with his faith in God as yours does.
Like I said, haters gotta hate... and still you wonder why the Pope would have bodyguards?edit on 27-1-2013 by adjensen because: (no reason given)
Of course Jesus didn't make mistakes, he's a fictional character, he did whatever the writer decided he did. I'm sorry if this reply is not what you asked for but you can't start a thread and then decide what replies are acceptable, especially on a topic as ridiculous as this.
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by adjensen
Let me see uhhhhhhhhhh , your catholic right . The Catholic church has been the biggest stumbling block for people to follow Christ .Has the gifts of God followed the Pope . How many miracles has he done in the name of God . Call no man Father for your Father is in Heaven .
Would Jesus approve of whats been going on in the Catholic church or putting people to death for heresy, or saying the world is round .
Why did the church put people to death when Jesus or the Apostles did not condone it .
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by adjensen
Jesus the Son of God said it . That's good enough for me .
I don't ever recall any apostle being called Father .
I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel. (1 Cor. 4:14–15)
She who is at Babylon, who is likewise chosen, sends you greetings; and so does my son Mark. (1 Pet. 5:13)
My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin; but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. (1 John 2:1)
Mary was not a deity nor ever will be .
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
One of the convictions I had during that time, was that Jesus (as God) was being held hostage, and that part of the function of the Roman Catholic Church isn't to share Jesus and release His spirit upon the world
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
That's the "coat of arms" of the Salvation Army, founded by the Rothschild family, bankers to the Vatican in Rome.