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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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So you think someones vote in a low population state should be more important than someones vote in a high population state?


Honest what the hell does equality mean?

I said every state has an equal vote how anyone got "is more important" is nothing but trolling.


I really can't say it any more plain.

If you are saying that Wyoming should get 1 vote in the electoral college and that California should get 1 vote in the electoral college, it is YOU that is advocating for inequality.

If you don't understand why, based on the population of the two states, then I am unable to discuss it with you.




posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:35 PM
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Seriously?

Guess some people have no concept of what equality means saying state should have more power than the smaller ones is asinine.

If the people vote is the same as each other states should be as well when someone is saying their vote should have more power than mine.

IS inequality.
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:41 PM
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You need to use SMALL words when discussing with "certain" members.

Lets say there are 2 classroom in a school, they decide to order Pizza for a Party.

They order 12 Pizzas.

In 1 class there are 10 students, in the other class, 30 students.

EQUALITY..... 10 student class = 3 Pizzas
........30 student class =9 Pizzas.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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Seriously?

Guess some people have no concept of what equality means saying state should have more power than the smaller ones is asinine.

If the people vote is the same as each other states should be as well when someone is saying their vote should have more power than mine.

IS inequality.
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I'm sorry...you are just beyond help.

Please see the post below yours for help.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:53 PM
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I've thought about it, you answer me a question ? Are we a republic or a democracy ? Sorry just woke up
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by randyvs
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I've that about you answer me a question. Are we a republic or a democracy ?


Constitutional Republic.

How about you answer my original question now.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:59 PM
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by randyvs
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So do you think that includes putting a thread up, that the goal is simply to recondition minds, away from the control one believes is the result of tyrannical gov ? A thread to awaken even one person ? Is that unintelligent also ? I'm asking. Not Rhetorical.




I just think that discussing America's options on the internet, while a good thing, leaves millions of citizens NOT talking about it out of the discussion. I myself do not own a gun. I am however surrounded by them so i feel no need for one. The people that would take such action are not talking about it on the internet, that does not mean they won't take action, it simply means we are not an immediate threat. The unknown factors keep us free. The fact that the Founding fathers pretty much said " Hey, if i screw you over just kill me" was a brave and patriotic thing to do. It is not how the current government feels though.
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:07 PM
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An easy question to ask. And I'll admit tough to answer. But I'm on it.
I believe I can point to a shadow gov. evidenced by references from Kennedy, Isenhower, Rooseveldt and even Wilson.

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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:16 PM
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fact that the Founding fathers pretty much said " Hey, if i screw you over just kill me"


Please show me where they ever said that. Remember, when they were talking about tyranical governments, they didn't view themselves as "government".

Once they formed the United States government, they made it a point to put into the Constitution that anyone that fights against them is defined a traitor. And not even 10 years after the forming of the United States did George Washington march the United States army on a group of farmers for not paying taxes.

Please, stop with the god worship of the founding fathers and trying to re-write history. They were only against government before they became the government.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:16 PM
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The OP of this thread was a call to unite. When the fringe of either side cannot even visualize the other side, there is no chance to unite. The "be with me 100% or be against me" mentality of the fringe on both sides has alienated the 60% in the middle, and provided no path to compromise. You want your guns, fine, I want a woman's right to control her reproductive rights up through 120 days past conception, I want gays to have the right to marriage, and to enjoy the rights that their creator has endowed upon them, I want the right to sacrifice a black bull to jupiter if I so desire, and I want the right to punch the next evangelist, who asks me if I know Jesus, right in the face.

I have no problem with gun rights, I will support some limits placed on them, until I receive all of the rights I have posted above. This is attempting to sarcastically point out some of the lack of denying ignorance that has been displayed in this thread.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:28 PM
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He was fine until about 3:50

Keep in mind, under god is equal to under unicorns or superman...

America was not founded by a deity..it was founded by principles of men.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:30 PM
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So this is a "We must unite as long as it's american" thread.

How predictable and sad.

Why would most of the world unite with such a messed up country?



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by xedocodex

Originally posted by randyvs
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I've that about you answer me a question. Are we a republic or a democracy ?


Constitutional Republic.

How about you answer my original question now.




A republic would not allow an outside entity to print money.

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eep in mind, under god is equal to under unicorns or superman..


Why why why the off topi post ? Why derail ? Get on topic or be gone please.
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:39 PM
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That's very good. I got ya's.

But I'm learning thru this post.

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So this is a "We must unite as long as it's american" thread.

Ya that's it !
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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A republic would not allow an outside entity to print money.


Why not?

A Republic doesn't define any certain banking system that goes along with it...so please explain to me why you think a Republic, by default, wouldn't allow that.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by xedocodex
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A republic would not allow an outside entity to print money.


Why not?

A Republic doesn't define any certain banking system that goes along with it...so please explain to me why you think a Republic, by default, wouldn't allow that.


Yet it's right there in the constitution of this, what was once a republic.
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:55 PM
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Yet it's right there in the constitution of this, what was once a republic.


Ok, provide the section and the text of the Constitution that deals with this.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 01:58 PM
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If I'm wrong point that out this isn't a test of how much I know. I've already stated I'm no expert. It's an amendment yes no ? Frankly I don't need to be a scholar on American gov. to know when a people should unite against tyranny. Or to know when someone is trying to derail.

The federal reserve act is unconstitutional.

I'm positive you know that.
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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by randyvs
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If I'm wrong point that out this isn't a test of how much I know. I've already stated I'm no expert. It's an amendment yes no ? Frankly I don't need to be a scholar on American gov. to know when a people should unite against tyranny. Or to know when someone is trying to derail.

The federal reserve act is unconstitutional.

I'm positive you know that.
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No, I don't know that...that is why I asked you to source it.

If you can't do that...then maybe you are just wrong.





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