posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 03:37 AM
reply to post by Logarock
I get what your saying but it is a very different situation.
In America everyone is already armed and the country is flooded with guns. If you outlaw the guns all the honest law abiding people hand in the guns
and the criminals keep theirs, we DO get it this side of the Atlantic. You are in a mess where the sensible system is unreachable without making
things a lot worse first, or you go for more guns.
But as we all see you already have ridiculously high incarceration rates and homicide rates, 4 times the chance of being murdered in America than in
Ireland, this IS because of your guns. Other countries DO look at the America example, that is why we don't arm ourselves.
The paramilitaries we talk about their are not the sort of people who are out mugging old ladies for their pension, if they turn up at your door and
you live long enough to see them then you are in for a 'beating' the last thing you want to do is pull a gun on them at this point or you are dead,
you may kill the 3-4 guys there at the time but more will come. Generally if they want you dead it will be something like plastic explosives below
your car. They also are armed with MILITARY grade weapons, fully auto assault rifles, RPGs, High velocity sniper rifles etc. These guys are the part
of the problem because it is they who supply the junkies with their heroin and can take blame for some of the economic problems. They are only
mentioned here because a previous poster thought they might keep the feral youth under control.
The people out mugging old ladies don't have access to guns at present, legalising guns WOULD give them access. Of all countries in the EU Ireland
is one of the worst hit by the banking crisis, it has completely ruined it, before the crisis the Irish would of had one of the highest incomes per
head in the EU now there is MASS unemployment, zero jobs and zero prospects for their young. I think the OP himself mentioned it himself, all the
educated young or those with trades have moved to Australia, Canada or England to get jobs.
This leaves behind those with no skills and are poorly educated in a country which has no jobs and a poor welfare state, generally the poor who quite
often have been getting # upon by society before they were even born.
TBH me saying it is only junkies out committing the crimes we are talking about here isn't fair on these people, they haven't chosen their paths in
life and certainly don't deserve to be shot.