reply to post by freebornman
Show me where I said they do deserve this, I think you will find I didn't. If i gave that impression I am sorry, I am not defending the sort of scum
who attack the elderly or even rob them.
NOBODY deserves to be shot without at least a trial and even then all you are doing is lowering yourself to their level if you execute them.
The death penalty is barbaric, or at least that is the consensus in MOST of the civilised world in which I include Ireland.
And, yes, every now and again a truly heinous crime does happen, emotions run high and calls for the death penalty to be reintroduced are raised, I
will confess I am guilty of doing this myself (a certain case just this week from this side of the border in Ireland springs to mind)
Ireland doesn't need to take a step backwards and start arming everyone with guns, that is just plain stupid (imo) with the problems in America being
the perfect example. But, even then America is different and there is a whole set of different arguments for why their citizens should or shouldn't
be armed but from an outside observers point of view it doesn't look like it works. The fact that there is a gun debate going on in America at all
is proof there MUST be a problem of some sort.
The actual 'problem' being discussed here isn't as big as it is being made out to be either, elderly people aren't being mugged and beaten day in
day out but there is indeed a very serious criminal justice problem and policing problem in Ireland. Sentences are way too lenient and there is no
where near enough Gards.
As easy as it would be to blame the 'greedy bankers' for this it wouldn't be striclty true either as the prison problem has been around and known
for a long time, i.e before the 'Celtic Tiger' got de-clawed, you think you have seen corrupt politicians until you see Irish ones..
Also, you have to consider the impact of having a heavily armed and well funded terrorist organisation (IRA) running around the country with an
influence over prison life, politicians and even some Gards. Only relatively recently could you say their influence has wained but is still there.
Ireland needs LESS GUNS not more...