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Originally posted by EllaMarina
I'll say this: more than anything, I'm disturbed by some users' seemingly happy attitude towards nonbelievers going to hell. The "warnings" are packaged in glee.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by ProfessorChaos
And if the work of the cross involved an all-inclusive and unconditional love, then it applies equally to everyone regardless of what they believe, thus making Christ something to be discovered and enjoyed, like a free gift of great value, and alleviating the Christian from the task of proselytizing.
"Forgive them father for they know not what they do."
A person cannot be told and instructed to repent. Repentance is a natural reaction and response to the magnitude of the free gift of God's grace through the person and work of Jesus Christ.
So somehow, we must figure out a way to re-cast the gospel and re-present it, so that the reaction/response isn't one of rebellion and rejection, but instead, based on an appeal to the highest faculty of reason is one of "OMG I never looked at it that way before and it breaks my heart now looking back in hindsight the degree to which I was so self-willed, selfish, egocentric, even wicked" - thus evoking the kind of transformative change and psychological and spiritual growth Jesus had in mind.
We must become, through that same process of transformation like pearls in the gate as a point of attraction, whereby we cannot really give from what we don't already possess.
Therefore, unless we can present an irresistibly attractive and perfectly reasonable gospel message, then we ought to just STFU (forgive my language).
The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.
~ Revelation 22:17
Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by EnochWasRight
The baptism of Christ is now, you can be made free from your sin today. What you say is not only incorrect but highly damaging to anyone who hears you and believes you. Jesus and the father are with me now. I am not waiting for anything except what I have already been promised by the baptism of Christ. And I'm not speaking of water baptism.
Sorry OP if this is the type of reply you are referring too, but I can't continue to allow the power of the cross to be diminished by those who deny its power.
Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
7) Expect persecution; be it warranted or unwarranted. Christ told us that as believers we would fall prey to intense persecution because of Him. Don't get all butt-hurt when it happens, when you gained faith in Christ, you should have been aware that it would happen, so stop whining about it.
Originally posted by Evanzsayz
maybe it's because they are tax free and get money from ignorant people just to hear them speak.
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by BlueMule
The term "Christian mystic" is an oxymoron.
If you want to follow Jesus Christ and become a Christian then you must repent of your sins and surrender your life to him. If you do that you will become born-again and you will be filled with the Holy Spirit.edit on 26-1-2013 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by BlueMule
In your opinion, perhaps it is. But as a comparativist I know better. Spend some time studying comparative mysticism and you will too. I recommend starting here.
Originally posted by BlueMule
I have been born-again and filled with the Holy Spirit, thanks for your concern. It's a life-changing mystical experience. A total game-changer. It's a profound experience and it's between me and God. It's not your place to judge it or me.