Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by EnochWasRight
The baptism of Christ is now, you can be made free from your sin today. What you say is not only incorrect but highly damaging to anyone who hears
you and believes you. Jesus and the father are with me now. I am not waiting for anything except what I have already been promised by the baptism of
Christ. And I'm not speaking of water baptism.
Sorry OP if this is the type of reply you are referring too, but I can't continue to allow the power of the cross to be diminished by those who deny
Of course. I didn't say they weren't with you, but you are not with them. When Paul said, "THEN", he was referring to THE day he was looking forward
1 Corinthians 13
12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully
There was NOW in the first century and a THEN later. When is later?
15 and I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked. 16 So I
strive always to keep my conscience clear before God and man.
Many mistakes are made by our theology when we fail to see that we must be born again. There is no choice. Our current theology ignores the words in
the Bible that demonstrate that we will be born again. Let me give you one of those verses:
19 But your dead will live, Lord;
their bodies will rise—
let those who dwell in the dust
wake up and shout for joy—
your dew is like the dew of the morning;
the earth will give birth to her dead.
20 Go, my people, enter your rooms
and shut the doors behind you;
hide yourselves for a little while
until his wrath has passed by.
21 See, the Lord is coming out of his dwelling
to punish the people of the earth for their sins.
The earth will disclose the blood shed on it;
the earth will conceal its slain no longer.
Why would God continually say that a person was one way now, but later, after Israel is restored, we will be another way? How could it say this
unless we are here again. Did Job know?
25 I know that my redeemer[c] lives,
and that in the end he will stand on the earth.[d]
26 And after my skin has been destroyed,
yet[e] in[f] my flesh I will see God;
27 I myself will see him
with my own eyes—I, and not another.
How my heart yearns within me!
I have three witnesses that THE change from faith to fact is during the first resurrection. What happens at that time?
28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who
are waiting for him.
And where do WE wait? What are WE waiting for? The Day of the Lord. It's the entire topic of the Bible. Are you in heaven now? No? Then you are
not WITH God.
1 John 4:12
No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.
God is with you, yes. You are not with God yet. You do not see face to face. If you did, you would be IN context with truth. As of now, we are not
in context with truth. If we were, we would not sin.
1 John 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
1 John 1:6
If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth.
You can't walk by anything except faith now. You will walk in truth and life when the Holy Spirit is given to mankind. This cannot happen until the
enemy is made the footstool. Has Christ handed everything over to God yet? Are you IN Christ?
1 Corinthians 15
24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must
reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his
feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything
under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in
If you wish to contradict this, then show it with scripture. Don't simply imply that I am leading people astray. Please demonstrate your position to
Do people still die? YES. They will also be born again in the last 1000 years, WITH a Holy Spirit.
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