2nd Amendment ALERT!!! I just called Bank of America... you have to hear this! , page 1


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reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 10:13 PM by winofiend
reply to post by PatriotsPride



Isn't it illegal to record a conversation on the phone without the other party being made aware of this?

Law abiding citizens need to start being law abiding.

But other than that, I can't believe the bank has such audacity. Now that would make me want a gun...


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 10:16 PM by netwarrior
reply to post by winofiend



In several states only one party of the conversation must be aware of the recording. It protects against illegal wiretapping.


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 10:17 PM by esteay812
reply to post by notkmarx



Yes, you could simply use cash, but that is not addressing the real issue here, which is; the bank DICTATING what you can use YOUR money on.

We could apply a band-aid by circumventing the bank, but that would only allow the opportunity to tighten their grip up even more. Then, when they make their next move, we will need to find a way to circumvent it too. Eventually, we will have come full-circle and what used to be our home, where we started the journey, resembles nothing we have known before.


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 10:18 PM by topherman420
I just went to a forum (an outdoors oriented forum) and a couple posters stated that they were able to purchase ammo and guns. There was also mention of This....Could that be the reason why someones order would be denied? And she only talked to the lowest peon in the place (I used to be one) he knows very little about anything unless it's some huge change which the customers get a mailed letter about...so not a very good source for anything.


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 10:18 PM by winofiend
Originally posted by netwarrior
reply to
post by winofiend



In several states only one party of the conversation must be aware of the recording. It protects against illegal wiretapping.


If the person doing the recording is the other party, then that makes the intent kind of pointless.

If a company is to record you, they make you aware of this and give you the option to opt out.

Anyway, just a side point.

I can't tell you tho, if a bank down this way had such a new policy, telling me what I can and cannot do with my own money, that would infuriate me more than the bank would want to know.

I'llbe keepin an eye on this one..


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 10:24 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by PatriotsPride



Hate to break it to you, but the money on your credit card, isn't yours. The card isn't even yours legally.

So, really they are just exercising their right to limit what you do with the money that they lend you.

It's a dirty dirty trick and quite clever really as a means of pushing gun control, considering how many Americans use credit cards for such purchases.

But, it's certainly within their right.

~Tenth


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 10:27 PM by PatriotsPride
reply to post by tothetenthpower



I hate to say,but if you are using a debit card on an
account that you deposited money into,then its yours.
I am not sure if this is only on credit cards or debit as well.
I do agree with you that this is a dirty underhanded trick!!
edit on 15-1-2013 by PatriotsPride because: add comment.



reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 10:34 PM by ~Lucidity
Related? True? See last paragraph?

Frankly, this is happening more and more...people at odds in business refusing to do business with each other? Remember that "if you voted for Obama, we're not selling your firearms" store?" Similar. And I guess they each have every right to do it, as the dude says.This is all apparently from April 2012.

McMillan Fiberglass Stocks, McMillan Firearms Manufacturing, McMillan Group International have been collectively banking with Bank of America for 12 years. Today Mr. Ray Fox, Senior Vice President, Market Manager, Business Banking, Global Commercial Banking came to my office.

He scheduled the meeting as an “account analysis” meeting in order to evaluate the two lines of credit we have with them. He spent 5 minutes talking about how McMillan has changed in the last 5 years and have become more of a firearms manufacturer than a supplier of accessories.

At this point I interrupted him and asked “Can I possible save you some time so that you don’t waste your breath? What you are going to tell me is that because we are in the firearms manufacturing business you no longer what my business.”

“That is correct” he says.

I replied “That is okay, we will move our accounts as soon as possible. We can find a 2nd Amendment friendly bank that will be glad to have our business. You won’t mind if I tell the NRA, SCI and everyone one I know that BofA is not firearms industry friendly?”

“You have to do what you must” he said.

“So you are telling me this is a politically motivated decision, is that right?” Mr Fox confirmed that it was. At which point I told him that the meeting was over and there was nothing let for him to say. I think it is import for all Americans who believe in and support our 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms should know when a business does not support these rights. What you do with that knowledge is up to you.

When I don’t agree with a business’ political position I can not in good conscience support them. We will soon no longer be accepting Bank of America credit cards as payment for our products.

Kelly D McMillan
Director of Operations McMillan Group International, LLC 623-582-9635
www.mcmillanusa.com


source:
www.facebook.com...

ETA: I bet it's just credit cards, not bank/checking/debit cards where the money is yours and not a line of credit. Anyone know?

Here's another person claiming he actually got an answer from BoA"

As you could imagine this made me furious…After countless hours on the phone with BANK OF AMERICA I finally got a manager in the right department that told me the reason that the deposits were on hold for FURTHER REVIEW …HER EXACT WORDS WERE AS FOLLOWS…

“WE BELIEVE YOU SHOULD NOT BE SELLING GUNS and GUN PARTS ON THE INTERNET “


Source: www.ammoland.com...

And an article reviewing this claim: www.dailyfinance.com...

And an apparent response from Bank of America:

Bank of America cannot discuss a specific account due to privacy reasons but Anne G. Pace, writing on behalf of Bank of America, states “I want to assure you and your organization that we do not have a policy that would deny banking services to entities because they are in the firearms industry.”

Pace goes on to write “We honor the rights and freedoms provided for in the U.S. Constitution and its amendments, including the Second Amendment.”

Further investigation has shown that Bank of America is the credit card provider for Bass Pro Shops, a national firearms retailer. Read more: dailycaller.com...


So it might appear they are only concerned about internet sales? Maybe...
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reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 10:39 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by PatriotsPride



Actually it's not.

Legally, any money 'deposited' at the bank is the banks to use, as they wish. They are only obligated to return what you deposited, but they have no legal obligation to do it on the spot. Not according to the terms you sign when you become a member.

If everybody went to the bank tomorrow and asked to withdraw their funds, do you think the bank could provide all that cash?

No.

Why? Because the bank doesn't actually have that much money, they hold about 1/3 or less in actual holdings. The rest is in loans and then profits made from the interest on those loans and services that turn profit.

So while I may certainly agree that YOUR money that you deposit at the bank is YOURS to do as you see fit, include buy guns with the cards you have; I also agree that the bank has the right to limit the use of it's services or provide an option to opt out of using said service.

Legally though, the banks would win that one.

~Tenth
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