Originally posted by superman2012
I'm going to copy and paste one of my arguments from the thread where this got started.
Your same arguments for the government not being able to farm (as if they need to with the amount of foreign aid they will receive from their allies,
yes that's right, you will be labelled terrorists and the US allies will help the government) can also be used against you.
Assuming you make it out of a city to be a countryside farming Rambo, you will need round the clock surveillance and weapons to stop Uncle Sam from
taking what they want.
Notwithstanding the cameras hundreds of miles straight up that are and can watch you. Think heat signatures.
How are you going to farm without the necessary equipment? Even if you get the equipment how are you going to keep it running? How much gas/diesel do
you really have stored? Do you think you can run down to the local gas station? How are you going to handle a drought? Pesticides? Herbicides? Feed
for cattle? Feed for poultry? How are you going to communicate with others when the government takes over all bands on the radio and monitors all
frequencies? What happens in the winter? Are you just going to settle where you can live all year round in comfort? You think they don't realize
humans freeze in the winter? What about medical emergencies? Diabetes? You have a source of insulin? Can you keep it refrigerated? How many people are
going to die in your group within 3 months due to lack of available meds? How are you going to deal with difficult pregnancies? If you are lucky
enough to have a physician/EMT/nurse in your group, what happens when they need tools for surgery? What happens if they haven't performed the
surgery? What happens if they get wounded/killed? Do you give up then?
When your children are starving in the woods, slowly freezing to death because you think you had things all figured out typing away on your keyboard,
remember the people that submitted and are spending time with their families. You may have held to your principles, but, if no one is alive in your
group to enjoy it, what did you accomplish?
ps- they will never question what they are fighting for as long as their family is safe, if it were possible I would suggest talking to a Jewish
Here are some answers to a few of the problems you presented. They are by no means a definitive answer just suggestions.
A biomass generator or wood generator takes care of the gas problem for tractors and maybe even generators from time to time. Simple technology used
nearly a hundred years ago to extract gases from wood and other biomass to burn in a carburetor.
If you are forced to run from your homes then locate a water source such as a stream or river. Preferably where the stream begins out of the ground
so no one can cut off your supply upstream. Farming near there eliminates droughts.
Whoever you allow into your group you need to lead them there without them knowing exactly where they are. The reason follows:
To communicate with the outside world you need to send runners out for Intel. Blindfold these volunteers and walk them in and out of the camps a few
miles out so they can't get captured and pin point your exact location to the opposition. Have a point you meet them at and walk them back in.
Domesticate as many animals as you can. Preferably small fast breeding animals. Rabbits, Guinea Pigs, Chickens, and Fish are ideal and they are
easier to take care of.
Learn to can everything from meat to veggies. Learn to make Vinegar from the 'mother'. Vinegar is used for all kinds of things from canning to
medical. It's like rubbing alcohol for the inside and outside of the body.
Some medical relief can be grown but others will have to be scavenged so there will indeed be loss of life there. Fish antibiotics such as Fish Forte
or Fish Mox are human consumable and easier to come by than CVS or the like.
When you build fires make it under shelter so that an airplane or helicopter has a hard time seeing the light from above. Only burn at night so the
smoke isn't seen. Use Fresnel lenses or parabolic mirrors to cook during the day. Heat your shelter using passive solar techniques trapping any
sunlight heat and pumping it into your abode. There are claims you can heat your place to 70 degrees in the winter months using this. Last resort
would be to build a fire for heat. Again the smoke gives you away in the daylight hours.
Satellites are a problem but with the amount of people in the U.S. they couldn't track everyone one in the wilderness. Besides wild animals give off
heat signatures too.
It can be done but many won't even know where to start. Many would submit in the beginning but then there are those who can make it and they would
teach it to others.
People will survive and then they would fight back.
You might not be able to tell it but I've thought about this before.