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Hey everybody, Dave here coming to you from my bunker in the Ozarks with a scenario that Myself and Superman2012 were having in the
I'm calling it now: Americans will crumble when Obama passes new gun laws.
Our discussion, which takes place over the last 3 or so pages of that thread had to do with what would happen if there was some sort of civil war in
the united states over gun ownership. I've been thinking about how to start this thread, and being an amateur writer, I will post the scenario in a
"novel style" post. Then, everybody discuss what I've posted, Superman2012 will be a major part of this thread as he and I had a lot of
disagreements over the discussion. So, mainly this will probably be between him and myself, but we encourage everybody to post their opinions and
First things first. Lets not turn this into a US vs Canada (or the Uk or Europe, or anywhere else) thread. Anybody doing that will be reported to the
mods. Please DO NOT troll here. This is to discuss a theoretical situation, and to hear everyone's opinion in an intelligent manner. Of course this
is all theoretical, and I don't think a total gun ban would ever be passed, however, It was a good discussion, and we'd like to continue it here and
derail the other thread no further. Please keep the Terms of Service in mind and be civil.
So, here we go.
The President of the United states uses and Executive Order to ban civilian gun ownership, exempting those with connections to the administration. DHS
gun handover stations are placed throughout the 50 states offering up to $200 for each gun turned in. of the estimated 300,000,000 guns in the United
States, only 97,000,000 are handed over during the two-week amnesty period. The Department of Homeland Security with support of the President, sends
out agents to confiscate guns from those who didn't turn theirs in. DHS agents are dispatched to civilian homes throughout the country in full riot
gear to confiscate firearms.
Seeing the brutality of the DHS agents in raiding the homes of their neighbors, civilian gun owners fight back, killing several of the agents and
causing a retreat.
The President of the United States goes on national television lamenting the deaths of the DHS agents and labeling their killers as Terrorists.
State and city infrastructures crumble as a full on civil war begins between the tyrannical government and civilian resistors.
The U.S. Military is called to stop the resistance. Military members refuse to attack American civilians and 25% of the military deserts, another 40%
stage a coup and take control of equipment, ranging from weapons as small as guns and ammunition to assets as large as fighter jets and Naval
Warships. They are labeled by the Government as Terrorist Sympathizers and the military becomes tied up with infighting and mutiny.
To combat the exodus of people leaving metropolitan areas to avoid mass deaths due to the general anarchy, the President offers food an shelter to
Americans who will move to metropolitan areas to keep industry alive and provide workers for the crops and livestock needed to feed civilians in the
Housing becomes an issue as the starving masses move back to the cities, many are forced into modern Hoovervilles.
Armed guards keep watch over as many large crops and meat processing plants to protect the workers and foodstuffs from raids by the the resistance.
Military deserters make it to their hometowns to aid in the resistance and try to set up some system of local government.
Police have also had several run ins with resistance movements, many are killed, many more leave their posts to protect their family, many others join
Military Veterans and experienced hunters form small militia groups to retake farmlands and livestock ranches.
Starvation and exhaustion take their toll throughout urban areas as people working the government controlled farmlands have trouble adapting to their
Medical emergencies and disease take their toll in the resistance-allied communities as medical supplies dry up. Doctors, EMTs, and former military
medics do as much as they can to aid those in need as they themselves are succumbing to exhaustion.
The Department of Defense deploys predator drones against resistance fighters raiding crops and livestock, entire fields are burned as the rockets
strike resistance fighters attacking the government farms.
As many more in urban areas succumb to starvation, the president grounds all Predator Drones in fear of losing more food sources to friendly fire.
What is left of the Military is brought home as wars in global theaters are called off to add to Homeland Defense forces. Satellites are used to
locate resistance forces, and ground troops are sent.
Guerrilla warfare commences and losses on both sides are immense. Freedom fighters armed with hunting rifles and military gear liberated from local
bases attack government convoys from wooded areas along major interstate highways.
People in Urban areas begin to revolt as their quality of life is vastly diminished as winter approaches. Handguns, smuggled in by workers in the DHS
Labor Camps (depression era style Hoovervilles) are used against the DHS police forces. The President blames it on "Terrorist Sympethizers".
Government laborers begin to escape DHS Labor Camps.
Resistance leaders begin to broadcast from local television and radio stations.
A former General becomes the de facto leader of the resistance.
The DHS employs sleeper agents to infiltrate resistance cells and assassinate resistance leaders.
Several resistance leaders are assassinated. The leader of the resistance puts out a televised address to the President of the United States, calling
for his surrender to prevent any more unnecessary deaths.
The President answers back with a refusal stating: "We do not negotiate with terrorists."
So, that's what I have so far. What I also want to mention is the need for electricity and fuel throughout such a situation. Farm equipment will be
run on what diesel is available, but would ultimately be converted to use biodiesel. Electricity supplied by hydro-electric dams will most likely
continue as I think enough of the technicians at such places would try to keep the power on. Nuclear power plants would become a major concern of the
Government and would most likely remain under their control.
The biggest problem for the Urban Federal zones would be food and shelter for it's inhabitants. Most rural citizens would align with the resistance,
and their biggest problem would be a lack of medical professionals and medical supplies.
Anyway, would like to hear from everybody on this one. I wrote it like a story, since its a hypothetical situation anyway.