Secret New Documents Reveal Shocking Truth About Vaccine Cover UP.

thanks OP, got the pdf and will share.

to those who are dissing Natural News as a source ... you might want to learn the difference between a 'source article' (Natural news) and a 'source document' (research) which they made available.

thank you Natural News ... we need more 'outcasts' like ya

reply to post by Aleister


I remember this experience too. Was in grammar school in the mid-late 60s. The sugar cube was for polio, the shots-- with an airgun, not a needle, were for measles, mumps, rubella (German measles) and whooping cough (pertussis).. Heh the only reason I remember this so well is because I never had to get them. I was vaccinated before I ever entered school through an experimental program via the University of Minnesota. Funny...I still GOT measles, mumps, rubella and whooping cough. So much for vaccines.

To the OP...great job!! Nice to see this coming to light more and more.

reply to post by Fleece85


You're right, I admit. I guess that never dawned on me so much.

Great, now I feel like poop

Originally posted by Fleece85
reply to post by Gorman91

 

The reason you still want vaccines for non-life threatening diseases is that they are still life threatening to certain populations. The flu may be just an inconvenience to you but it could be fatal if you spread it to a newborn or an elderly person.

In my country the vaccine promoters recommend that people in vulnerable populations, the elderly, asthme sufferers, people with cardio problems, those with a compromised immune system etc. should have the flu vaccine. It's almost insane not to have it, or so they would have us believe.

Funny how those that specialise in cardio-vascular/cardio-respiratory disease and other vulnerable population group specialities, recommend that these populations should be kept away from the flu vaccine as they are 3x more likely to be hospitalised by the vaccine than someone who is not in one of these vulnerable population groups.

Ok I found the time to read the whole document and here is one part I found interesting......


Sorry for the big quote but I feel this is very telling.

"“In order to further validate vaccine related illnesses, fuller studies would be required.”
Despite these unresolved safety issues, the conclusion reached at the meeting was that:
(6.7)
“There should be no change in the present recommendations or supply of MMR vaccine on
the evidence available to us at the present time.”
Thus, instead of re-evaluating the vaccination policy, at least until safety concerns were
fully evaluated, the JCVI choose to support the existing policy based on incomplete
evidence that was available at that time.
Furthermore, at the 17th September 1990 meeting (www.dh.gov.uk...
DH_095294), the JCVI appeared to have been fully aware of increasing numbers of cases of
mumps vaccine-associated aseptic meningitis occurring in Japan, since at the time of the
meeting, they had been presented with a draft of a study by Sugiura et al. [4]. The
Japanese study found that among 630,157 recipients of the MMR vaccine containing the
Urabe-9 mumps vaccine, there were at least 311 meningitis cases suspected to be vaccinerelated.
In 96 of these 311 cases, mumps virus related to the vaccine was isolated from the
CSF. Sugiura et al. [4] noted that this was an unusually high incidence of vaccine-related
adverse outcomes, which they had attributed in part to “adverse media publicity”.
Nonetheless, the fact that in almost one third of the cases, the vaccine strain had been
isolated from the CSF of children, suggests that safety concerns over the MMR were
warranted. Indeed, in 1993 the Japanese suspended the use of the MMR vaccines containing
the Urabe strain due to it causing a high incidence of aseptic meningitis, and reverted to
the use of monovalent measles, mumps and rubella vaccines. According to Japanese Health
Authorities, the withdrawal of the MMR had not caused an increase in deaths from wild

measles infection. Noteworthy, in a BBC news report (news.bbc.co.uk...
1808316.stm), a spokesperson for the Japan’s Health Ministry stated that:
“...more children had died from the disease during the period when MMR was being used.”
In reference to the Japanese study, the JCVI transcript specifically states:
(6.6)
“The paper confirmed information from Japan previously disclosed to ARVI.”
This suggests that the JCVI knew for some time that the Urabe-9 vaccine was causing
problems and yet, did not consider the possibility to temporarily suspend its use.
Furthermore, four months prior to the 17th September 1990 meeting, at the JCVI 4th May 1990
meeting (www.dh.gov.uk...), ARVI expressed concerns regarding the reports
from Japan. The major reason for these concerns was not that the JCVI/ARVI were in favour of
using the Urabe-9 vaccine which was now associated with increased risk of meningitis/encephalitis
in children, but rather:
(9.1.)
“Professor Banatvala was concerned about the possibility of the Japanese experience being
published widely in the UK, and urged the gathering of information on the various episodes"


There is some very scary stuff in this PDF and I could spend all night copying and pasting but you get the gist of the issue....

Again thanks to the OP for bringing this to the table.
Regards, Iwinder

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That's sounds crazy! It just sounds like every year at this time pharmacies, businesses, and doctors want to push this flu shot. When businesses go so far as to threaten your job if you don't get a flu shot, in my opinion it's overstepping the rights of the employee and invading your bodily rights. Talking about losing your freedom over your own body, jeesh!

Anyone know how to get your kids out of having to get private school required vaccines? I don't want my kids getting them after reading all the horrible ingredients listed by the CDC.

RS

Lmao, these aren't "Secret" at all.. not even Unclass lol..I've just looked at these docs and nothing "Secret" about them.. I've seen "secret' docs at work and you'll know if they "secret" docs or not..but nice try, either than that good post. I've never trusted vaccines, I read a interesting thread here years ago about some doc going off the record and saying what's really in vaccines, like a bunch of chemicals and junk. I don't trust them and never get them..not even flu shots.

Originally posted by Labrat3162

Originally posted by Fleece85
reply to post by Gorman91

 

The reason you still want vaccines for non-life threatening diseases is that they are still life threatening to certain populations. The flu may be just an inconvenience to you but it could be fatal if you spread it to a newborn or an elderly person.

In my country the vaccine promoters recommend that people in vulnerable populations, the elderly, asthme sufferers, people with cardio problems, those with a compromised immune system etc. should have the flu vaccine. It's almost insane not to have it, or so they would have us believe.

Funny how those that specialise in cardio-vascular/cardio-respiratory disease and other vulnerable population group specialities, recommend that these populations should be kept away from the flu vaccine as they are 3x more likely to be hospitalised by the vaccine than someone who is not in one of these vulnerable population groups.

Labrat You are correct, I suffer some serious Cardio problems and have been told from the onset of my issues that I never want to get a flu shot ever.

It could turn out to be the last shot I ever get.

Good information.
Regards, Iwinder

Just wanted to bring a relative post over:

I just want to take this opportunity to share a doc I recently watched called The Greater Good about the vaccination issue. I have seen all the heavily biased and mis-information docs and swore against any and all vaccines, but since then, I have returned to the middle ground, continuing to watch studies and reports before making a concrete decision for myself. I found this doc refreshingly balanced, offering both sides of the argument from med professionals, parents and victims and some pharmacy people.

The doc revolves around a Gardisil case, which is very interesting in itself, but it goes further and reveals that the number of vaccinations todays children receive has almost tripled in the last 30 years. One doctor suggests not avoiding vaccinations altogether(nor do I) but rather administering them in smaller totalities over time, as opposed to one big vaccination session.

I wanted to do a thread on this doc when I saw it because it made me think of ATS and how this issue has been hotly debated. In my opinion, this is the best doc on the issue, and a must watch for parents and ATS'ers.

Peace

Not to poop on the parade, but why can't I find any information on Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic, Ph.D.? Anything at all? Previous studies done? Credentials? Papers published? Is she respected among her peers? I can't find any information on this person, so I'm a little skeptical at this point. If anyone can point me in the right direction, that would be great.

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Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic is an early career postdoctoral fellow. She was awarded a PhD in 2009 in Biochemistry, from the Comparative Genomics Centre at James Cook University in Townsville, Australia. In 2010, she joined the Neural Dynamics Research Group at the University of British Columbia (Chris Shaw’s lab) and is currently researching the neurotoxic effects of aluminum vaccine adjuvants. Tomljenovic has recently become an Associate Editor of the Journal of Alzheimer’s Disease. She values open-minded discussions on controversial topics and the pursuit of truth in research endeavors, wherever they may lead.

www.vaccinesafetyconference.com...
real-agenda.com...

ar gawd im confused now... went to midwife today and she was urging me to get flu jab, (15 weeks pregnant) really not sure whether to have it or not now!!!

Never took a vaccine of any sort since my childhood, hope this won't have to change in the future.

Until a few years ago i worked as a representative for GlaxoSmithKline in Belgium.
Although vaccines were not my primary producttargets in specific moments in the year i was main backup in that segment. My main product was the molecule paroxetine (seroxat/aropax over here, Paxil in US i think) and antibiotics.

In this period i had to influence firstline docters and pediatrics in hospital and private practices into prescribing my products before others. For doing this, alot (and i mean really alot) was allowed.
I remember having 2 - 3 weeks of training just for this market. Looking back to it, it seemed more like indroctinating the entire team. Something we had to pick up and pass on to the doctors. I remember several occasions I was thinking 'what if u (the product specialist) are wrong', 'what if u are just selling your product to me'. Ofcourse we had dozains of studies showing this and that ... but bottom line is: the same study can show u evidence that an item is black, while 1 paragraph down it says the same for white... alot of studies are bought, not conducted.
After doin this job for 5 -6 years i had enough of it, In the beginning i believed all of it, but with time passing the commercial factor is so much more important. Ofcourse its not a company with a priority to help the human population , its there to make money, alot of it. The commercial tricks and the scientific explanations are constructed pretty good, supported by the data from studies. Combine this with a good representative and u got a very large group of first liners that are made into drones for them.
I actually am sorry for what i 'sold' them in those days.

I'm not sure how the system works in US regarding vaccines.
Over here we are forced by law to administer polio vaccin in the first week of a newly born baby. Proof of this has to be given to the city hall. Fail to do so and u will be sentenced by court and given severe fines.
After that there is an institution that does the follow up of babies, health, growth, weight, housing, checking the ability to parent ... and giving vaccine shots. We are free to choose our own first line doctor for this to, but even then the system checks it if u do this or not. The system is constructed this way so u cannot escape it. Trying to get away from it only puts all attention on u.

Reading this article confirms what i learned myself in the past and what i suspected all along. And to be honest .... it scares me. Because, i know what it surely doesnt do: protect us from what it says it does. But what does it do then ... I have a 4 year old daughter, she had her shots so far, but i'm trying to convince the wife to not give her the follow up shots.

Sorry for this wall of text, its just something i wanted to share with u.

ps: my apologies for the bad english, as i said in the beginning, i'm not from english speaking origin, i'm Dutch.

Check this out

childhealthsafety.wordpress.com...

More to come...

Ah, found it

experimentalvaccines.org...

I downloaded the PDF and will save it along with read it at some point. My Inlaws called tonight saying they were watching the news and the flu epidemic has really made them concerned for their loved ones, SUGGESTING we get up the jab. I am not a whole lot into the idea but can someone give me a run down of this report and why (besides it doesn't prevent the sickness it is supposed to) it bad news? Certainly someone here knows....

Anyone have an actual journal or evidence of Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic, or as usual, you are immediately taking it at face value because it fits your agenda?

reply to post by nixie_nox


You have the audacity to speak of agenda?

The irony is through the roof!

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


Oh hey look, it is baseless claims guy! Throwing insults because they have absolutely nothing of value to show.

If you people want to look like fools for following made up doctors, be my guest.