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reply posted on 7-5-2003 @ 11:50 AM by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Oh, god, the eternal debate between muslims and christians

First off, CHRISTIANS, in your bible, if u take it at face value, god promotes genocide, rape, incest, child molestation, and mass murder. And there are Christians alive today who still promote these "values".

Second, of all, CHRISTIANS, you seem to conveintly forget the atrocities u committed. The Crusades, YOUR jihad, not to mention the very brutal and bloody forced conversion of Europeans to Christianity. When the Christians took power, they went into pagan Europe from Rome and brutally forced the European pagans to convert to Christianity against thier will. Charlemagne slaughtered 1000 saxon warriors who refused to accept christianity. the witch burnings in the middle ages, as well as the persecutions of scientific heretics during the rennisance shows that christianity is just as ignorant, intolerant, backwards, and superstitious as is fundimentalist islam. The only reason the western world is more advanced than the muslim one is because during the enlightenment, we began to seperate church and state, remove the power of church from the govornment and institutions to allow science its place. If we did not have such a large healthy chunk of of athiests and agnostics as our primary thinkers and scientists, we would still be burning little old ladies at the stake everytime a a crop went bad or someone went insane.

The bible is full of sick graphic depictions of all sorts of deviant sexual practices. As a child, weh i read the bible, i was seriously confused, ebacuse on one hand, sex was touted as immoral beyond marriage and in any other capacity but making kids, but yet the bible had so many tales of sexual exploits of a twisted nature that..well, it really didnt add up.

Dont forget, not only did abraham have several wives, but his primary one, Saharh, was his half sister, who he repeatedly pimped out to save his own skin, and god rewarded him for it. His son, like father, did the same with rebecca. And god rewarded him too. So, before u start chucking stones at your muzzie brothers (yep, they are your brothers, you both sprang from the same mother religion) look at your own glass house.


reply posted on 8-5-2003 @ 11:17 AM by another_one
Originally posted by believerinchrist
I guess Im pretty good at opening up these hornets nests. It is a good thing to keep discussing Christ. For one day he will get tired of the things going on in this world{and the things people say} I truly dont know and wonder what will happen to the souls who dont believe in Jesus Christ.


Rofl believer, you just missed the whole point of the thread.

I'm wondering even if you even read the replies.


I know Muslims believe he was here and that he was a prophet, but that is so incorrect.


Incorrect based on WHAT.

Please be specific. The Bible is a slavery book that has been corrupted, changed, and edited throughout history. We believe that Jesus was more than a "prophet", he was a GREAT messenger of God, who loved God with ALL HIS HEART, which is what all of you should do instead of trying to bash each others' faith.

Have you ever seen me make a thread about another religion?

No, and you probably won't.

I only post for defense.

I have to believe that in these end times ,wich we are in, that as the bible says.....that the Lord will pour out his spirit on all mankind and your sons and daughters shall prophesy..............


It's getting late.

I believe that the Holy Spirit shall come and speak right through people { as he did me on night}


Nope, if anything spoke through you, it was not the "Holy Spirit". Why do I say that? Because the Trinity does not exist in the Bible.


and chastize people and that the Lord will do miraculous things as to convert the ones who are such hardcore non-believers.


Jesus is not God nor did he ever claim to be God.
I can guarantee you that I believe in God more than most people on this board, for very personal reasons and experiences as well.

I truly make this my prayer for all the lost souls here at ATS and throughout the world. Amen. ................................................................Believer


Believerinchrist, please read the following Bible verse.

"On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. 'Teacher,' he asked, 'What must I do to inherit eternal life?' 'What is written in the Law?' Jesus replied. 'How do you read it?' He answered: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' 'You have answered correctly,' Jesus replied. 'Do this and you will live.'" - Luke 10:25-28

Enough said

Don't pray for me, pray for yourself. I thank you for your kindness though


reply posted on 9-5-2003 @ 01:24 PM by another_one
Originally posted by believerinchrist
I dont want to.


Then I have absolutely NO reason to debate with you with any longer. I read your posts, and you don't read mine?

Strikes me as a pretty unfair bargain.

I have let you in on the truth. Truth has let you in on the truth.{No pun intended} And the thing is I think you know the truth. So you must enjoy posting to start debates and such or whatever your reason might be. I havent the faintest A.O. I havent figured it out yet. But I think I will make you my mission Another One and lead you to Christ and get you saved. Do you know the sinners prayer? If so , will you say it with me? We can hook up on the chat and go through it together if you want to. You wouldnt believe the feeling of love and peace that would come over you if you would surrender to Jesus. He is waiting on you Another One.With open arms for he has the love for all mankind as such a father has for his own child.


No, I only love GOD.

You know, nomatter what your child does, you cant stay mad at him/her and you will always love him/her. He has the same for us only greater.


Then there should be no problem.

There has to be a reason for your replys to my posts A.O. Your not trying to convert me to Islam, so I must have something that you want.


I never converted kids/teenagers, no tried to. They are influenced too much by the Church, thinking its the truth, and also by peer pressure. Also imagine the hard time a teenage muslim convert (from Christianity) would have from his "Christian" friends at school.

And all I have that you can have is Jesus Christ . Ill be waiting for your reply A.O. Just think about everything that I have said to you...................


Sorry, I will never and can never believe in a man-made religion (Christian) that condemns Human Equality, degrades Women, and enforces Slavery.

Not now.

Not in a million years.

Not ever.

I confess in the name of GOD Almighty.


May God bless you Another One.....Amen...........................Believer


Likewise - you need it more than me.

Peace.


reply posted on 9-5-2003 @ 01:37 PM by abstract_alao
Originally posted by another_one

"While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, 'Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him.' The owner of the house went outside and said to them, 'No, my friends, don't be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don't do this disgraceful thing. 24 Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But to this man, don't do such a disgraceful thing.' But the men would not listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, 'Get up; let's go.' But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home. When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of Israel." - Judges 19:22-29





What a violent story. Didn't that happen in Saddam and gomora. This might have been the reason that "God" destroied the cities. The two men in the story were "angels" or beings not of this world.
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