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Originally posted by ezekielken
Isn't it by logical extension that if all was created for him, through him, by him, that the Lord created evil? Of course it is a test, how are we to advance without a line in the sand?
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!"Jude 1:9
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings.
Originally posted by akushla99
Cop-out...
As a thought-form construct, the existence of 'hell', and/or the manager of such a place...is a convenient abrogation of responsibility on the part of little flames of the great conflagration...the illustration of having been 'in my image', able to create such thoughtforms and loci, means that a scapegoat could be utilised for any form of evil on the planet...nature operates through strict mechanisms, that we are hardly even able to understand (too many variables to consider, mans' influence included)...
A99
Originally posted by smithjustinb
God is in all. The devil is within only.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by akushla99
Cop-out...
As a thought-form construct, the existence of 'hell', and/or the manager of such a place...is a convenient abrogation of responsibility on the part of little flames of the great conflagration...the illustration of having been 'in my image', able to create such thoughtforms and loci, means that a scapegoat could be utilised for any form of evil on the planet...nature operates through strict mechanisms, that we are hardly even able to understand (too many variables to consider, mans' influence included)...
A99
Free Will planet. 3rd dimension. All is allowed. My image means all things all nature of my being; negative or positive. Scapegoats necessary; Lucifer It is all me; the wonder of the construct is beautiful. If anyone gets it is more so.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by smithjustinb
God is in all. The devil is within only.
God and the devil are the same. Each live within you; personal choices you make internal dialoge- its all you a fragment of the whole. You are living out the dreams of this one dreaming to become human finally.
If not even Michael one of the highest angels(who is also supposed to chain him down) doesnt dare slander Satan what makes mere christians think they can do the same? Notice the keyword. Did not DARE. As if its some great crime to slander him. But I notice thats the main thing the church and many christians seem to do. Slander him day and night. Also take notice of the verses before Jude 1:9
Originally posted by jhill76
Good things only from God, everything else, the devil.
I am in wonderment, where does this stem from?edit on 3-1-2013 by jhill76 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by vaelamin
If not even Michael one of the highest angels(who is also supposed to chain him down) doesnt dare slander Satan what makes mere christians think they can do the same? Notice the keyword. Did not DARE. As if its some great crime to slander him. But I notice thats the main thing the church and many christians seem to do. Slander him day and night. Also take notice of the verses before Jude 1:9
Yes, many here will say all kinds of things against, and judge, but if the highest of above doesn't do it, what gives the ones here the right?
Originally posted by Jameliel
Originally posted by jhill76
reply to post by vaelamin
If not even Michael one of the highest angels(who is also supposed to chain him down) doesnt dare slander Satan what makes mere christians think they can do the same? Notice the keyword. Did not DARE. As if its some great crime to slander him. But I notice thats the main thing the church and many christians seem to do. Slander him day and night. Also take notice of the verses before Jude 1:9
Yes, many here will say all kinds of things against, and judge, but if the highest of above doesn't do it, what gives the ones here the right?
The very definition of slander reads as follows;
Noun
The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
Verb
Make false and damaging statements about (someone).
Satan is a liar. - This is true, thus it is not slander.
Satan is disgusting. - If you find murder, pedophilia, etc. disgusting, then this is true, thus it is not slander.
If satan is not the inspiration and purveyor of such deeds, then who is? Sure the person who committed them is the physical object which committed the deeds, but are these deeds not by their very nature "satanic"? I see people here speaking as if we should hold some sort of respect or acknowledgment of power for satan. He has his power on this earth which is granted for a time. Above that, he holds no real power it seems. Otherwise he would be in control of everything. If another angel (Michael) can apparently bind him up, then even Michael seems more powerful. I certainly have no respect for satan as some sort of supreme being. Being that he is sheer evil, I do not wish to align myself with that. Any evil I have done or will do, I pray has been and only will be done through ignorance and not willfully as it seems satan likes. Slandering satan? If it is the truth, it shall not be considered slander. It shall be just what it is; the Truth.