Originally posted by MisterMaster
You are joking right?? This is ALL new buddy. A firearm is legalease for handgun, however no records of centerfire or rimfire long guns have ever been
kept. In fact, it is against the law for ATF to keep those records over 90 days.
This bill now makes info on long gun sales available to any LEO. Please, if you wanna derail my thread by muddying the waters, do so with good info,
not half truths. Thanks.
I don't appreciate your tone, and don't understand your anger unless you are trying to fear monger and I just sat there and told you that your fears
are unfounded. In which case, stuff it. You happen to be talking to a former (let license expire two years ago) FFL holder, so I think I speak with a
bit more authority on the subject than you do. THIS is the reason why dealers (even Curio & Relic, 03 FFL) have to have bound books. If a gun they
sell is used as a crime the dealers are how they track the firearm. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN RESTRICTED TO ATF. Sure, this makes the locals have access,
officially, but they *always* have had the access. It was a mere phone call away to ATF, and it has been for years. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms, and Explosives (some get pissy if you leave the E off) is always more than happy to oblige with a trace request to a dealer.
(1) Every dealer shall record the make, model,caliber, or gauge, as well as serial numbers of all firearms,rifles, and shotguns that are
acquired,sold, or otherwise disposed of. Monthly backups will be required in case of thefts,fire,etc. All records will be made available at the
request of the Superintendant (Capt of NYS Police).
Guess what is required info in a Bound Book? Make, model, caliber, serial number, date of acquisition, date of disposition, and their
source/destination's name, address, and FFL number.
(3) Firearm, shotgun, and rifle sales information, including serial numbers, date of sale, and identity of purchasers, shall be maintained and made
available to all Government LE Agencies upon request.
Again, Bound Book info.
(1) Dealers are to provide Government LE Agencies with full access to any and all documents pertaining to the sale or acquisition of all firearms,
rifles, and shotguns.
(2) Participate in and comply with all monitoring of firearm, rifle, or shotgun distribution by manufacturers or Government LE Agencies.
Making official what has already been done for decades...
(3) (which has strange wording throughout, but I only highlight one small portion here)
Report all ATF trace requests of firearms, rifles, and shotguns on a monthly basis...UNLESS SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED NOT TO BY THE ATF. (Emphasis mine)
(5) Report any firearm, rifle, or shotgun purchases which appear to be straw purchases or otherwise create a reasonable suspicion that the firearm,
rifle, or shotgun may be diverted from the legal stream of commerce.
To be honest, I'm not sure why ATF would tell someone to NOT report something. Those guys love paperwork.
So, here I have told you why this is no big deal. I challenge you to find one half-truth in what i've just posted. There are no half truths when
dealing with the ATF because when you sell guns and do it legally, one half truth will get you shut down and thousands of dollars worth of inventory
confiscated, and that's if you are LUCKY. Having a clean and very legible bound book is a great way to put your investigator in a good mood and that
is the key to running a store and keeping your own butt out of jail.