FBI Documents Reveal Occupy Crackdowns WERE Coordinated, Assassinations Considered

Originally posted by WaterBottle
reply to post by FirstCasualty

 

when they openly denounced capitalism and democracy. They might as well be on the Taliban's payroll.

When did they denounce democracy?

OWS was all about power to the people.

And just exactly how are socialists anything close to the Taliban? I'm a socialist and socialist ideals are directly opposite to the Taliban. You're very uneducated and probably some sort of shill.



Guess I'm a terrorist too

edit on 31-12-2012 by WaterBottle because: (no reason given)

Exactly. I must have repeated this about 347 times over the course of being here, and nothing changes because some people are too brainwashed to get it. AND HERE IT IS: The religious right belongs to the right as a division of the right...religion, family, nation, change nothing, big business

It is sad to see right wingers(conservatives) throughout the world fighting each other over religious differences and worst of all america fabricates the reasons as an excuse to maintain and build its military industrial complex and to expand jewish-american corporate imperialism.

I have been looking for cheap russian and chineese brand products all over the internet; i guess they call them "knock-offs" and "fakes" or "stay away from that" stuff. The propaganda is absolutely horrible.

I mean if I can't make enough money to buy american products then why can't I buy "knock-offs" Who the # is the government and big business to tell me to buy american products MADE IN #ING CHINA just FOR THEIR STOCKHOLDERS to save a buck at my expense. You try one way and you lose, you try another way and you lose. They probably write the legislation and hand it to government JUST TO SIGN IT! (please sign on the dotted line sir).

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by FirstCasualty

 

Actually the sort of person you are is worst than being an armed American. You are the sort of person that would side with Hitler, and every other dictator in the world who has disarmed the people, or wanted to... Look at your response, you want Americans killed for being armed and exercising their NATURAL/GOD GIVEN RIGHTS, that tells us who really is the dictator wannabe and that's YOU...

You want to use the expression "GOD GIVEN RIGHTS" and expect anyone to take you serious?

Fine i will. Your an armed religious extremest group, and you believe god gave you the right to be armed so its possible you are delusional or suffer from some kind of mental health.... Great!...

Just goes to show how wrong many people were concerning OWS. If the government were considering assassinating members...they don't do that unless it's something that would be good for the people.

So all you people on the side of evil and didn't even know it....care to reconsider? You helped crush a movement that was really going to help the people if it was allowed to blossom.

Originally posted by FirstCasualty

Originally posted by WaterBottle
reply to post by FirstCasualty

 

when they openly denounced capitalism and democracy. They might as well be on the Taliban's payroll.

When did they denounce democracy?

OWS was all about power to the people.

And just exactly how are socialists anything close to the Taliban? I'm a socialist and socialist ideals are directly opposite to the Taliban. You're very uneducated and probably some sort of shill.



Guess I'm a terrorist too

edit on 31-12-2012 by WaterBottle because: (no reason given)

Power to people without democracy is anarchy.

maybe you didn't get the memo, but anything undemocratic is terrorism. Anything anti-capitalism is terrorism. If your having trouble getting it, maybe call HLS and tell them your views and see what your rights are to exercise them.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

I'm willing to bet the farm that you consider yourself a "true American patriot" too. You're so mixed up you're not even aware. Capitalism is not written in stone to be America's economy. If the people choose a different economic model so be it.

reply to post by WeTIredABC

Yes, it is page 61 and page 69 where they are talking about killing via sniper fire.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by FirstCasualty
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So Islam should change their primitive ways but yours are above any scrutiny?
...

Did you just really write that?...

BTW, you might be referring the SHARIA LAW, show me where in the U.S. Constitution it gives the right to men to have power over women... Not to mention other practices which are seen as normal under Sharia Law and in ALL Muslim nations...

Sharia law is part of the constitution in Muslim countries. Sharia law is the LAW in Muslim nations. Islam is a RELIGION... The U.S. Constitution is not a RELIGION, it is the LAW in the U.S.... A law that has been trampled by leftwingers and even so called RINOs for decades...

You have to be out of your mind to make such a statement...

edit on 1-1-2013 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

So it was the Left that were against OWS? Watch how you answer as I'm about to show just how backwards the Right has some people...

reply to post by DZAG Wright



You should read all my posts, I clearly stated that i was anti capitalism.

You can keep your farm, but I'm Canadian.

Capitalism needs to be done away with soon, however, guns are not the answer. This was a system that was written by a bunch of alcoholic morons in the 1800's, I'm pretty sure you can out smart them.

reply to post by FIFIGI


Yes, but they are not clearly talking about the FBI engaging in sniper activity. It sounds like it would fit more in the context of protecting OWS from lone gunman that might hid in the crowd.

There is nothing clearly stated in the documents. The wagon has been ahead of the horse this entire thread.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by projectvxn
Hey I have an idea...Let's give up our guns.

Its not like the government would consider murdering all of us...Oh wait...

For What... What are we going to Wait For...
You Had your Guns when they Killed Kennedy, and What did you do?
You had your Guns when they Lied about and Invaded Iraq , and What did you do?
You had your Guns when they said they could Detain and Arrest Americans with no Due Process, and What did you do?

NOTHING , Your Guns are going to do Nothing , because you and your Gun Croonies are going to do Nothing.

So Stop with the Tyrannical Gov B,S,

In this case, I would say that the guns shouldn't have entered the equation....and thankfully they didn't.

Instead, perhaps "You had your TV (Facebook, twitter, Superbowl, Orangebowl, Starsearch/American Idol, Elementary School Textbooks, commercials, porn, country music, airshows, carshows, boatshows, elections, sex, drugs and rock n' roll.....ad nauseum) when they killed.../invaded..../changed..."

Nothing is more powerful than influence.

Originally posted by FirstCasualty
reply to post by TinfoilTP

 

Only in America would that be an insult. You should see this from the globes perspective.

Its like Grandpa said that Grandkids can play with guns. Parents know its a bad idea but under pressure to respect their elders they go along knowing full well that the practice is out of date and dangerous.

The constitution was written 240 years ago! Think maybe its time to revisit some ammendments. You cant keep hold your anscestors glory to YOUR chest like YOU did something to deserve it. That constitution was made in another time by better men than YOU

that has got to be the most idiotic thing I have ever read on these boards.

seriously, you need to rethink your life.

So here you have it, the government was planning to MURDER OWS leaders to protect their corporate overlords ability to rob the country of the future without anyone knowing. Any publicity is bad publicity when you're looting the Earth.

CIA, FBI, NSA, the military -- et cetera. There might be earnest people working there but the REAL MISSION of most of these organizations now is to "protect the establishment."

Banks rob us blind, speculation loses trillions on Wall Street, and the "economic police" can only manage to catch Martha Stewart for losing money on bad "insider" advice, and one guy who robbed the wrong people.

What so annoyed me about criticisms of Occupy Wall Street -- was that the focus was on "they are doing it wrong" or "how inconvenient" or "dirty hippies." The focus kept being pushed (intentionally), that the Government was supporting austerity, and trillions were gifted to banks to shore up what they corruptly "lost." They didn't even bother stopping their bonuses.

Meanwhile, people like Bradley Manning are tortured and confined indefinitely when they dare to shed a light on the great threat to the Constitution and the American Public. Terrorism is any time you get in the way of the powerful parasites.

reply to post by smarterthanyou


Socialism is workers owning the means of production, if you do not have that goin on, you do not have a socialist country.

I don't think Webster is a socialist, he just wants to nationalize a bunch of things. I'm not sure though. All collectivism isn't socialism.

Food stamps are expanding massively,

Food stamps are crony capitalism, JP Morgan runs the program

Government is taking control of student loans.

More crony capitalism. The governemnt garuntees the loan, the actual loan comes from one of the big 5 private banks.

and a central bank owned by private bankers

lol. You're calling something that's privatized socialist?

Government taking over the healthcare system.

More crony capitalism. The government is forcing you to buy PRIVATE insurance.

Endless government bailouts to corporations who deserve to fail rather than be bailed out by taxpayers.

lol. more crony capitalism

I'm aware that we are not a purely socialist country but we are heading there, at least for the lower to middle class populations.

No we really aren't. You do not understand what socialism is..like I said the first time around. Our economy is based off making profits, and working for someone else. Unless you can afford to open your own place and exploit employees.

Originally posted by reeferman

Originally posted by FirstCasualty
reply to post by TinfoilTP

 

Only in America would that be an insult. You should see this from the globes perspective.

Its like Grandpa said that Grandkids can play with guns. Parents know its a bad idea but under pressure to respect their elders they go along knowing full well that the practice is out of date and dangerous.

The constitution was written 240 years ago! Think maybe its time to revisit some ammendments. You cant keep hold your anscestors glory to YOUR chest like YOU did something to deserve it. That constitution was made in another time by better men than YOU

that has got to be the most idiotic thing I have ever read on these boards.

seriously, you need to rethink your life.

Really? That's nothing compared to some things I have said and there is more to come.

reply to post by SpaDe_


Do you have to turn this in a 'right to kill with guns' debate? The government was considering killing OWS leaders and your response is to arm and do what exactly? The problem with that flawed logic is that you cannot morally defeat another by using the same tactics they are using that upset you.

reply to post by marbles87


Im not shocked in the slightest. Look at what they say about people who speak out against the government. They want to push public opinion to get people to believe these people are dangerous.

reply to post by WeTIredABC


look at page three of this post...look at my reply or Kali's reply...i have a link to the actual document...

Originally posted by FyreByrd
reply to post by SpaDe_

 

Do you have to turn this in a 'right to kill with guns' debate? The government was considering killing OWS leaders and your response is to arm and do what exactly? The problem with that flawed logic is that you cannot morally defeat another by using the same tactics they are using that upset you.

I said there are people out there who think it would be a good idea to disarm the US. We are already armed, and I think it should stay that way at the very least as a deterrent. I did not say anything about right to kill with guns anywhere in what I said.

Originally posted by FirstCasualty

Originally posted by reeferman

Originally posted by FirstCasualty
reply to post by TinfoilTP

 

Only in America would that be an insult. You should see this from the globes perspective.

Its like Grandpa said that Grandkids can play with guns. Parents know its a bad idea but under pressure to respect their elders they go along knowing full well that the practice is out of date and dangerous.

The constitution was written 240 years ago! Think maybe its time to revisit some ammendments. You cant keep hold your anscestors glory to YOUR chest like YOU did something to deserve it. That constitution was made in another time by better men than YOU

that has got to be the most idiotic thing I have ever read on these boards.

seriously, you need to rethink your life.

Really? That's nothing compared to some things I have said and there is more to come.

There's MORE to come?? I'm seriously surprised you're still going after 8+ pages of thrashing about, you have an inhuman tolerance for abuse... but then again you keep ranting your opinion like you have an agenda... hmmm.

Back on topic tho, good thread minus the trolling, S+F OP for bringing up something to consider, I remember Kent state just like someone else mentioned, nobody got arrested for the murders if I remember right? The details should be looked at for OWS as well, like who's being targeted as the leaders and who's doing the targetting? And are these the same people funding OWS? Ok I'm speculating now, but why else would I like this place?

reply to post by FirstCasualty


Yes, it is clear that someone was gathering intelligence so they can kill leaders of Occupy movement. It is not clear who that was though - government or government.

Does anybody remember Kent State? No media had any problem defending the senseless murder of innocent students at that time...seems like the Obama crowd will condone anything the Feds do these days...