reply to post by logical7
I am just questioning to know how you reached it and i got the answer, you just have it because it makes the most sense to you.
But i do have a problem if you are "sure" that "hell" is a myth and so my belief is obsolete. Then i'l do ask how you are so sure??
And if you try to learn about any new theology/philosophy with already an ideal in your mind then do you think you are doing it justice?
I did make a thread about Qur'an and Deism, hope you checked it.
I didn't see it, but I'll look for the thread....
Let me try to explain it better, how I "arrived" at my beliefs. As a little child, I was taught Protestant Christianity only. By the time I started
school, I doubted the Resurrection, the Miracles, the Trinity (that one STILL doesn't make any sense)...
by the time I was done with elementary school (around age 11), it had occurred to me -
simply: the thought came into my head -
about reincarnation. AND that Jesus was only a man.
Later, as I grew older, I naturally looked into "Reincarnation" to see what others thought about it. To my delight, it was an already ancient idea to
which I had simply not been exposed YET. When I found - on my own, through study of different faiths - that it has been taught for millennia.
So, in true "finding the evidence to support one's belief" style, I thought. "Hmmm! Okay, so reincarnation IS an idea that other people have had."
Saying, my studies and research AFTER the notion came into my mind REINFORCED my idea. This was surprising, and since no one can say it is impossible
- on the contrary, many very very wise and learned people teach it - and taught it - from Buddhism to Hinduism to Jewish tradition to Urantia to
Native American wisdom.....
it's WIDELY believed and accepted throughout the world, in many different cultures, INCLUDING Western thought.
Since it's nearly as widely held, and universally, as the concept of "God" to begin with, AND it resonated with something that my "indwelling Spirit"
had "revealed" to me - in other words, an idea I had was backed up by thousands of years of prior belief in it by many different cultures - making it
not MY original idea, but me one of many who had HAD the idea.
Even Jesus taught it; the later "Churches" denied it - simply left it out - because, in my opinion, it was easier to control and scare people if they
thought they had only one go-round and then the PROBABILITY of HELL.
Now, there are many concepts of "Hell" as well - if you've read the Tibetan Book of the Dead
they speak about how immediately after death the soul enters a "dimension" that includes very frightening scenarios - hellish to say the least - but
these PASS - and they are a REFLECTION of the person's life-consciousness. Karma, if you will.
Once the soul has navigated those scary scenarios (with the assistance of a Guru reading aloud to the dying/deceased, like a guide talking them
through it) it is then returned to the point of taking on another "lifetime" to atone for or learn from the next round.
My personal beliefs are fluid, and ever-growing, becoming....just like me. But I've read enough of world religion and mythology, and studied enough
science and research, and also read philosophies about it, that it is, in my opinion, the closest thing to "believable."
"Hell" as eternal torment in a fiery pit for simply failing to say "I believe x
" (!!) and screwing up by merely being human ("and
therefore a sinner"?
????) -- is fiction. Utter hogwash.
I turned away from mainstream Christianity, and all other "organized religions" as I continued on my seeking. Still haven't found anything to refute
that reincarnation is very possible....and have had many teachers (both through books and in person) who have backed it up with credibility.
Hope you understand now.
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