It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Even with the gun ban in place, shootings in Chicago have been rampant. Last weekend, at least 52 were shot and ten killed in just three days, and this weekend the gunfire continued.
Chicago Police Department statistics, we are told, reveal that the City's handgun murder rate has actually increased since the ban was enacted and that Chicago residents now face one of the highest murder rates in the country and rates of other violent crimes that exceed the average in comparable cities.
A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned.
Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed. Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.
"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither."
The Jamaican government decided that the only solution to this volatile situation was to declare martial law overnight, and to demand that all guns and bullets owned by anyone but the police and the military be turned into the police within 24 hours. The government decreed that anyone caught with even one bullet would be immediately, and without trial, incarcerated in what was essentially a barbed-wire enclosed concentration camp which had been speedily erected in the middle of Kingston. In true Orwellian fashion, the government referred to this camp as "the gun court."
I remember lying awake in bed at night, clutching the handle of an ice-pick I had put under my pillow, and listening to the screaming of car-loads of Jamaican gangs going by our house, praying that they wouldn't pick our home to plunder. The favorite tactic was for a group of thugs to roar up to a house, pile out, batter down the door and rape, steal, kill, kidnap... whatever they felt like. They knew the inhabitants had been disarmed, and that they would be met with only fear and defenselessness. My pathetic ice-pick seemed incredibly puny, but it was all I could think of. Our family didn't even own a baseball bat. I remember lying awake thinking about how our beloved dogs were old and feeble, and that they could not protect us. And that I could not protect them either.
Originally posted by havok
Of course gun confiscations don't reduce crime.
Criminals don't have to give their guns up!
Just the law abiding citizens who legally acquired them.
Yeah. That makes sense.
I'm not sure I completely understand the thoughts of anti-gun people.
Why do people really consider punishing the good guys in this situation?
Why wouldn't there be more focus on the criminals?
Originally posted by six67seven
It's very telling of the American population's declining IQ, that so many would now be in favor of more gun control and restriciton of the 2nd amendment, with unbelievable disregard to historical facts. People's reaction has been purely emotional, as the government and media knew would be the case.
The failure of so many Americans to connect the dots regarding this fiasco = the declining American IQ
Today it's not as sad as the Sandy Hook shooting, but one day we will look back on this emotional plea for gun restricitons and truly regret it.
What happened to calling the police?
If the citizen wasn't armed with a gun, chances are neither were the gangs.
Regardless...why clutch an icepick and pray, instead of simply phoning the people to protect you who do have guns?
1. The police have no legal duty to protect individual citizens, and cannot be held responsible if they fail to do so. Even if a citizen's 911 call gets through to the emergency center, the police can simply choose not to show up, and the citizen has no legal recourse against the police. The courts have repeatedly ruled on this. As the court wrote in Bowers v. DeVito, 686 F.2d 616 (7th Cir. 1982): "There is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered by criminals or madmen. It is monstrous if the state fails to protect its residents against such predators but does not violate the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, or, we suppose, any other provision of the Constitution. The Constitution is a charter of negative liberties: it tells the state to let the people alone; it does not require the federal government or the state to provide services, even so elementary a service as maintaining law and order." The U.S. Supreme Court, in MU 59 U.S. 396, ruled in a similar vein as far back as 1856.
2. The police carry guns primarily to defend themselves, not to protect us.