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reply posted on 17-12-2012 @ 08:24 PM by nenothtu
Originally posted by FinalCountdown
Originally posted by johncarter
reply to
post by seabag



Good, it was about friggin time



Wrong. Fail.
This will never happen.
And this wouldn't solve the problem.

Who care about assault rifles? In my opinion we could do without.

However, guns in general will never and could never be banned in the US.
You just couldn't physically pull it off.


Wrong. Fail.

It's this "who cares about assault rifles?" attitude that will get us all in the end. You DO know that your deer rifle is just a high-speed sniper rifle, right? maybe that should go, too. And your duck hunting shotgun? Just another room-broom for house-to-house combat. Give an inch and they'll take a mile. They're not going to stop at those "evil black rifles" - those are just the tip of the iceberg, the wedge to drive in to split off ALL the guns in the end.

"Who cares about assault rifles?" You'd better - even if you're of the misguided opinion that the Second Amendment is only about duck hunting.


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 12:21 AM by wulff
Originally posted by johncarter
reply to
post by seabag



You just wait while obama and his legal boys have some brain storming in his oval office. With little luck we can look forward to a 2013 that makes it very painful economically or otherwise to be a gun owner.


You are either a fool or an idiot, since you think so highly of Obama I guess it would be the latter!
All you are trying to do is make those against additional gun regulation mad, you are simply a troll with nothing worth reading to add to this so, why don't you take your "I want someone to take care of me!" attitude elsewhere?
By the way, there is a reason people like you don't receive many stars so think about it!


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 12:43 AM by wulff
Originally posted by Halfwayline
Coming from the UK it is hard to understand why 80% of the US have a gun. In 2008 there were 39 murders by firearms here and over 9,000 in the USA. Yes you are five times bigger in population but that would make our figure 195 in comparison.

Even our regular Police Officers do not carry a gun. There is a trained Armed Division which in London gets called out twice a day but rarely fires a weapon in anger.

What worries me is that if someone in the US has an argument with someone, has a few drinks then decides to use a gun against him a murder could easily arrise. The worst that could happen here is that a brick is thrown through their window or someone gets into a fist fight over the argument. The temptation to use your gun in the US seems too great?


You are a nation of sheep, and you really don't know what being free is, in fact with all the cameras keeping tabs on you I guess it's better you are letting the 'government' tell you what to do!
Here is a little story, when you guys were getting your asses (or arses to you) kicked by Hitler, the United States wasn't into the war yet bailing you out so as a kind jester the NRA asked members to give some of our guns to the UK to help arm your struggling nation. Hunters and sportsmen and women gave the UK millions of dollars worth of prized rifles and never received (or asked for) any payment. So, what does the UK do after the war to keep these out of the hands of the Brits? They don't return them, no..... they take the out into the ocean and dump them!! I guess they just don't trust you guys!

Hmmmm... check out this video from your fellow countrymen:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 11:24 AM by MegaMind
reply to post by johncarter



Your pathetic slandering of ALL gun owners shows you are incapable of making any rational argument for your cause.

you FAIL

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reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 01:12 PM by phyllida
For the first time this week, I wonder if I might wade into the argument with a little conspiracy of my own. It has long been said that a Government cannot control an armed populace. Now with that in mind, the fabled Majestic12 raises its head and I think quite ominously in light of current events.


The worst contingency plan has also been implemented and is at work right now. For many years now they have been importing drugs and selling them to the people and mainly the poor and minorities. Social welfare programs were put into place to create a dependent non-working element of our society. They began to remove the social welfare programs in order to develop a large criminal class that did not exist in the 50's and early 60's. They encouraged the manufacture and importation of deadly military firearms for the criminal element to use. This was intended to foster a feeling of insecurity which would lead the American people to voluntarily disarm themselves by passing laws against firearms. Incidents were to be staged to speed up the process. By using drugs and hypnosis in a process called Orion on mental patients the CIA inculcated the desire in these people to open fire on school yards and inflame the anti-gun lobby. This plan is well underway and so far is working as planned. This plan must not succeed

see old thread for more on Majestic12
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now I'm not saying that I believe it all, but the above paragraph and the one below certainly seems rather coincidental to me and I don't believe in coincidences.

How many people do you think would give up their guns if there was an amnesty declared like there was here in the UK for knives, if they felt strongly enough due to media pressure etc that it would keep their children safe? Once they had been brainwashed sufficiently that their Government was doing all it could to tackle the "problem" and to keep the citizens safe so these things never happened again?


Due to the wave of crime sweeping the nation they will convince the American people a state of anarchy exists within the major cities. They are now building their case almost nightly on TV and daily in newspapers. When public opinion has been won over to this idea they intend to state that a terrorist group armed with a nuclear weapon has entered the United States and that they plan to detonate this device in one of our cities. The government will then suspend the Constitution and declare Martial Law.


Now whilst the above quote may seem a little extreme, didn't we all think TPTB would never ever do something like 911 and all the other atrocities assassinations & invasions they have been found guilty of? When you also add Agenda 21 into the mix....nothing seems impossible or too extreme for those in the driving seat of power. If they want something to happen it will happen regardless and it will happen slowly over time until we are used to it and it becomes the norm. That's how most governments on this planet work, create an atmosphere of fear to pass unpopular legislation for which the people will be sooooo grateful that their government is on their side and understands the fear, and if the Government spin doctors are particularly good you will find the people themselves will be the ones arguing for tighter control/legislation etc. Wonderful system!


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 08:18 PM by one4all
reply to post by Halfwayline



This is the second time I have read this UK BS,more people are murdered in non firearms deaths there than in America,the murder rate hasnt changed a darn bit just the methods.

And youtube the JFK murder and get educated,that murder is being solved online and in the peoples court and it looks like there may have been a coup de tat,do you understand what that means?????You preach as if the government is god and is perfect and is lawfull in all they ever do and is an accurate representation of what the people want.

Wake up,any government that does not use internet voting to PROVE what the people are saying they want is NOT representative at all in any way,truth is now available and it looks like a lot of governments are getting kicked in the cojones like they deserve to be kicked until they clean up the bad apples who are EVERYWHERE,the old guard needs to be routed out because they cheated to get into power wether you know it or like it or not.mainstream media is privately owned and operated and manipulated,the internet is the first TRUTH you have seen in your entire life.


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 08:49 PM by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by seabag


I only heard one jounalist mention the knife attack at a school in China that happened on the same day (as part of a discussion on the Sandy Hook tragedy). Not only could an assailant use knives (granted with a smaller body count) but he could have used a ball peen hammer and molotov cocktails and still had killed as many students (and they would have died more horrifically).


reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 02:51 PM by Halfwayline
Originally posted by one4all
reply to
post by Halfwayline



This is the second time I have read this UK BS,more people are murdered in non firearms deaths there than in America,the murder rate hasnt changed a darn bit just the methods..


2011 Homicide rates;

UK 1.2 murders per 100,000 population

USA 4.2 murders per 100,000 population

en.wikipedia.org...
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reply posted on 22-12-2012 @ 08:48 PM by seabag
reply to post by wulff



It is what it is! Obama is primed and ready to fulfill his NWO agenda and ban guns.



This BS always has the opposite affect….you fools!



reply posted on 22-12-2012 @ 09:32 PM by 727Sky
Originally posted by GambitVII
reply to
post by captaintyinknots



Uhhh... after a friend of mine was invaded by a group people posing as people from a cable company, she eventually picked up an AR15. People can be messed up, seriously. I don't even need to make up the details for you to get how effed up the whole thing was. What ever it is your thinking happened, your most likely right.
So please, don't go about pretending that terrible circumstances in life and death circumstances are exclusively 1v1 encounters.
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Another example of, a gun hater being one mugging from owning a gun? Sorry to hear and hope she is ok
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