To add to the conspiracy feel,it took me three attempts to post a long post supporting gun ownership and supporting armed citizens.THREE times I had
to write a post because TWICE it was deleted before I could post it here on ATS---I have had this happen many many times here on ATS,rarely on other
sites,it is not a good sign.
So I say it again,WHO is behind the disarmament of the human race??It isnt just America.
In Canada you cant even carry a pocketknife or an egg sized rock if you are honest and say it is for self-defense.Seriously.In Canada we are allowed
to apply to conceal carry guns,it is law that we can apply ,BUT,the Provincial firearms officers of every Province[like states]have colluded together
on a NATIONAL scale and agreed to NOT ISSUE THE PERMITS,if THREE clear attempts on your life have been made and documented you can apply for a
permit,other than that you are screwed. there are only a handful --like twenty or so of these permits issued to 38 million people--you do the math,its
disgusting what has been done to my country.This is a national conspiracy and the US and Canada are always bed partners in government and everything
else.Our Provincial Government via our firearms officers and their conspiratorial decision to in a unifyed manner refuse to reasonably issue permits
as per existing law to citizens is colluding with our Federal government to abbrogate the basic rights and freedoms of Canadians.We are being
This is a major issue and I am very afraid right now,I see how this is being done and I cannot stop it,no one seems to be able to,when your Provincial
govt colludes with your federal govt to abbrogate citizens basic rights using paperwork and unwritten agreements then how can the people defend their
rights??They cannot and this is a very real problem.
I live in Canadian city and two people have been murdered within 200 yards of my living room couch,I walk and drive by murder scenes every day,one
head shot and one gangland stabbing,my government forces me to live in fear every day of my life,I am confident I could defend myself and others at
any time with a gun,its not that difficult,but I cant even carry a knife if it is for self-defense,or even a stone in my pocket if it is for
Look we need to dig deeper,in my country for example------
-most people support capitol punishment when you talk in private----but we dont have it
-most people support private gun ownership when you talk in private----but we dont have it
-most people DO NOT support gay marriage --yet we have it
-most people support decriminalisation of marijuana--yet it is still illegal
-most people want accountability from government--but we dont have it
I could go on and on and on.
Our governments ceased representing us at least 50 years ago,in fact look to the JFK murder for the turning point globally.We should have dug in back
then and fought back,to late now,we need a new approach.
I am Canadian and have spent my life pissed off at that cover-up and what it did to the US and Canada.You r us we r you,simple,borders dont really
matter as we are learning.
Truth be told all of North America feels the same way about these general issues,it is just our governments who refuse to do as we ask .So this is a
very complicated issue ,revolving aroung a lack of accountability by our governments.No government has a right to refuse open disclosure to its
citizens even for National Security reasons if asked for accountability by the people,a failure under this dynamic consitutes in itself a National
Until we have internet votes on every issue by the people we will never see an accountable government.The internet has been flushing out bad Canadians
in Government and business and Police forces since the inception of the internet,but we STILL see a high level of coverups by government and these
groups every day.
The anonymity of the net has allowed whistle-blowers to help us find crooked criminals hiding amongst us,and this is causing chaos within all major
systems,people are stepping down,running,retiring,anything they can
do to jump ship and delay prosecution or being caught until they can pass the buck or get out of the limelight.We need to start naming names and NOT
allow these people to walk away unscathed.New politicians trying to make this change happen are being deadended left and right ,but on the upside this
action is outing the remaining old guard.We need to see places online where we NAME THESE PEOPLE --so we can chase them to the grave trying to hold
them accountable for their actions,this must be done as the search for Nazi war criminals was done,it must be COMPLETE.
We need accountable voting,we need internet voting and we need to get rid of 70% of our government structure as this % was created to cover-up all the
wrongs inflicted upon us and to deflect and prevent accountability on any level for these actions.
We only need to know WHAT the people want,most of our government structures are based around the traditional geographic challenges of letting everyone
be fairly heard,well those days are over,we have the internet---but--the reason we still have all governmental levels intact is because over time
these levels of government designed to support that old system were converted into buaurocratic brick walls designed to make the government itself
unac#able and unassailable.When we follow the money and the wrongs we ALWAYS find ourselves caught in this quagmire,because it is a designed roadblock
to democracy,intentionally instituted supported and funded.
Ask why we didnt already have protection for our kids in place,for freaks sakes we just came through a war on terror-----you mean to tell me no one
considered our kids to be a national Resource worth protecting-------get real here---oile wells and nuclear powerplants and government officials were
all protected,industrys were protected and it cost billions of dollars to do it.
How much money do you think bulletproof classroom doors would cost???Seriously,this is how flawed and dangerous our current systems happen to be.
If those teachers could have simply locked their classroom doors none of this would have happened.Stuff that in yer pipes and smoke it.
Now someone grow cojones and ask your government why this hasnt been done,and then after you hear the excuses ASK FOR SOME PEOPLES HEADS AND CAREERS
OVER THIS ISSUE-----make someone somewhere become accountable and if they run then just catch the ones supporting their actions and covering up for
them,we need names and numbers and accountability.
Hey Obama you fraud,explain why for the cost of ONE stealth bomber you DID NOT PROTECT AMERICAN CHILDREN????Every school in America could have
bulletproof doors for the cost of one stinking plane.
We dont want to see gun control we want governmental accountability,but we cant even hold JFKs murderers accountable when ALL the required evidence is
in the public domain,because the government itself cannot tell the truth unless they admit to treason.
You see,this all goes back to one point in time,JFKs murder,that is where we need to start the clean-up and we need to be very thorough.
We all knew on that very day that the graft and lies and corruption had gone to far,but no one stood up to fight when the battle was easier to win,no
We need names and numbers,and we need to publicly pursue and hold accountable this cabal of people,including all of their support in place today
wether they were collusional or not,we need to take away the money and power from the families and groups who benefitted from killing JFK,and we need
to do it like they did the NAZIS----every single one must be held accountable or the job is NOT DONE.
Who is disarming North America,and who is supporting this crooked system we are all forced to endure????
25 yrs ago people in Canada could drive with their firearms in their trucks and cars,we had guns in our racks ,and NO PEOPLE WERE NOT SHOT ALL OVER
THE PLACE----but no one was murdered in front of the public in the shopping mall parking lot then either,but today that is exactly what happens,people
opennly murder right in public to make a statement,we need to punch these people tickets on the sopt,immediatly.
Today if I see a murder of a child being committed in front of 1000 people I CANNOT HELP THAT CHILD,this is wrong,I want my rifle and I am willing to
shoot any monster who is murdering women or children and I believe I have a right to do this if it is necessary.
I have hunted my entire life and can tell you first hand there is no bad side to doing the right thing,you WILL NOT BE DESTROYED AS AN INDIVIDUAL IF
YOU SAVE OTHER PEOPLES LIVES---you are told this to keep you disarmed and suppressed.Pulling a trigger is very very easy,and so is walking away from
whatever you shoot unless you are doing a wrong thing--a soldier forced to shoot people he feels might be innocent to some degree will suffer,a
vigilante will not.
You see people are generally cowardly,so if you take away guns you only stop the brave protector types from doing what comes natural,under fire most
people carrying guns or not will hide or run,but SOME will not do this.
You could take 100 names and if they were properly investigated and held accountable you could change the Country overnight,but heads would need to
roll---100 of them at the same time--no escapees.
No women--no children--no hold barred,this is the only way to heal the issues we are confronted with today,we need to re-value these precious
You heard it here first,bullet-proof doors on EVERY classroom by the end of this year,call it an economic stimulus pkg,everything else gets called
Americans with cojones will push for this immediatly,and those with really big ones will form community groups and buy and install their own safe
doors,and will SUE anyone who trys to stop them.Form groups now and start making these schools safe or they will snowball this into further gun laws
and disarmmament of the populus.
There are lots of mathamaticly smart people here,someone calculate the number of schools and doors and the cost Nationally,considering we can find
volunteers to install the freaking doors,no artificially inflated totals please---and lets really see what we are dealing with.Children are worth
it.Its a matter of National Security now isnt it??I mean our kids are our most important resource arent they???Get on it,make it happen before this
turns into a play to disarm your entire country.
The powers that be are trying to defeat the effects of the internet and are taking greater risks than ever before and are now easier to catch than
ever before,lets see a CRUSADE here,lets see regular people taking the time to get online and out the bad people in this world, and for example lets
consider anyone who fights right to be the problem,lets stop debating what is right as we already know this.
I say install bullet-proof doors on all schools ASAP---now exactly WHO thinks that gun control, is a better solution---names please.
You see its that easy isnt it---here lets try again.
I say that young man was mentally sick just by looking at his pictures and that there must be a chronological history of this development so lets
find it.Lets see his pictures,lets get his computer records,there are hackers out there who can get his data wether "someone"destroyed his computer or
not---we NEED to know who he was in contact with absolutely.
Sure lots of kids are sick,sure there are many things wrong with the world,but we are talking about this man and his world,we need NAMES of all the
people he was in contact with,especially if his photos show that he was normal looking for most of his life and say for example recently met some new
people and suddenly changed,drugs may not be the only thing we need to look for forensiclly.Mind control needs to be investigated---hence the critical
importance of his computer records and their UNUSUAL disappearance---we need some good hackers to find all of his data.And we need to watch for
attempts to spin this into another direction--gun control for example--that is a sure sign of complicity in a greater agenda.
If you apply the right amount of pressure in the right spot with a thumbtack you CAN move an elephant--lets not lose sight of the fact that this kid
could have been brainwashed over a very short period of time.And lets remember that if that happened there is a trail to follow and names to
find,hence the importance of the computer being destroyed as it could be the only link to how he may have been influenced and by whom.
edit on 17-12-2012 by one4all because: (no reason given)