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Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by mademyself1984
IMO gun control is not the answer. I also agree with "gun free zones" in principle. The concept of "sanctuary" is a sound one - safe ground where combatants cannot engage.
Sadly, in our society, criminals and maniacs do not follow the rules.
My proposition would be a new level of concealed carry permit. A much higher standard of background check involved. And those people, with that permit, would be allowed to carry anywhere. Planes, malls, churches, bars, etc. That way, even in the sanctuary, people would be safer than now.
~Heff
Originally posted by Snsoc
If this guy was wearing that V mask like someone said it might be, then he was most likely inspired by Anonymous!
At least that's what you're meant to think. It could be that he was inspired by the film. Or he's a Manchurian Candidate, sent out to discredit Anonymous. Or maybe he thought his shooting spree needed some kind of razzle-dazzle to it, and he saw that mask in a shop and popped it on at the last minute.
I've met people who claimed to be in Anonymous. They're not into random destruction. They're into justice and fighting opression. Anonymous is no more to blame for this than religion is to blame for some nut who tells people that God told him to kill people.
if the shooter/s were wearing Fawkes masks it could put a spanner in the works for said project.
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
reply to post by muse7
You obviously didn't see the sarcasm in my post, WE DO NOT NEED MORE BANS! we need more people legally carrying in these "Gun Free Zones" that only inhibbit the law abiding citizenry! WE are the first line of defense, the cops and swat are just the clean up crew.
reply to post by Druscilla
I'm extremely liberal. I'm so liberal I think everyone should be allowed to have even LEO/military exclusive firearms. There should even be "dispute resolution" zones where people can go to permanently resolve their differences, or commit suicide by playing FFA Last Man Standing games. Such places could even have entertainment feeds plugged in for voyeurs that like that kind of sicking violence. Give all the violent stupid people some place to 'play', and they can sort themselves out. It's brutal, but, prisons, for the most part, don't work.
so it seems the gun man IS dead
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — A gunman opened fire in a suburban Portland shopping mall Tuesday, killing two people and wounding another as people were doing their Christmas shopping, authorities said. Read more: www.ctpost.com...
Originally posted by nightstalker78
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
reply to post by muse7
You obviously didn't see the sarcasm in my post, WE DO NOT NEED MORE BANS! we need more people legally carrying in these "Gun Free Zones" that only inhibbit the law abiding citizenry! WE are the first line of defense, the cops and swat are just the clean up crew.
Wrong.That's the last thing we need.More crazies with guns? Sure that's the solution.Because we all know every legal CCW holder is an accurate shot and wouldn't put the public at even more risk in these types of situations.Sorry,but I'll take my chances with the police then some wanna be hero.It never fails,whenever something like this happens the internet warriors come out and say "If I were there,this wouldn't have happened". Bull#.You are not trained to handle tense situations such as these.You are human,you would've had the same reaction as those that were there..flee.
I consider myself neutral on gun control.I'm not opposed to them.I don't own one and never will.But I have no problem with SANE people legally owning them,either for hunting or personal protection.This is America after all.
Originally posted by UberL33t
Radio Reference Link
3 shooters, one has a hockey mask was the last transmission.
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by mademyself1984
My proposition would be a new level of concealed carry permit. A much higher standard of background check involved. And those people, with that permit, would be allowed to carry anywhere. Planes, malls, churches, bars, etc. That way, even in the sanctuary, people would be safer than now.
~Heff
Originally posted by nightstalker78
reply to post by muse7
Because we all know every legal CCW holder is an accurate shot and wouldn't put the public at even more risk in these types of situations.Sorry,but I'll take my chances with the police then some wanna be hero.It never fails,whenever something like this happens the internet warriors come out and say "If I were there,this wouldn't have happened". Bull#.You are not trained to handle tense situations such as these.You are human,you would've had the same reaction as those that were there..flee.
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
reply to post by Druscilla
Me and my brother (RIP) always jokingly said we should just put criminals in an Arena so they can kill them selves off.
I think such a place would STILL not prevent nut jobs on preying on the weak....Honestly I think it might have been a government sponsored job to gain more support for a new assault weapons ban and a ban on private ownership of body armor....