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reply posted on 17-12-2012 @ 02:18 PM by iwilliam
Last, but certainly not least:



Originally posted by JBpage76**

If anyone finds a cheat code for experience or money be sure and post it!!





The Game of Life and How to Play It -- By Florence Scovel Shinn


Magick In Theory And Practice


The first link is the online text of a lesser-known book which I can not possibly recommend enough. Shinn was one of the leaders of the "New Thought" movement only about....oh, nearly a century before "The Secret" (the latter of which is, IMO, a VERY incomplete work on the subject, and a mere shadow of the ideas Ms. Scovel-Shinn puts forth) Non-christians may not at first like the way she relates some of her metaphysical theories to lines from scripture, but if this is the case, I suggest you view this as a jumping-off point to the realization that much of the bible (especially the teachings of christ) may, in fact, be coded mystical instruction regarding the manipulation of reality. Just saying....

And you're welcome.
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reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 04:23 AM by solargeddon
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Wacky or not, I like it !

Certainly something I can get behind,

If the experiment indicates we are part of a simulation (which 30 years ago would have been thought to be crazy), then the concept of a conciousness driven simulation, born out of a need to experience, doesn't seem far fetched at all, in fact to me it makes a lot of sense.

Thank you



reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 11:46 AM by 1nf1del
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
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post by 0bserver1



While I think it's a very real possibility we live in a simulation, it's still a very low possibility imo. The reason I think this, is because our Universe is so enormous. Mind numbingly enormous. And every single atom in the Universe is extremely complex. To simulate every single atom in a single living cell with real physics, requires a computer 1000x more powerful than the most powerful supercomputer on Earth. Imagine trying to simulate a whole person, or the entire planet, or even our entire solar system, or our entire galaxy. The amount of power required to achieve such a feat is beyond comprehension... let alone trying to simulate the entire Universe.

Don't even try to imagine how much power that would require because I can tell you that none of us here have the ability to comprehend how much computing power that would require. We have trouble even comprehending the distance to the nearest star in our own galaxy, or the distance between our galaxy and the nearest galaxy. Keep in mind there are billions of galaxies in our Universe. In fact the Universe may be infinite for all we know, we can only see so far, and no matter how far we look there appears to be no end. These facts lead me to believe we are in a "genuine" Universe, and not a simulated one. But I'm not completely convinced either way.
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You're looking at this through your technology viewpoint, go a few thousand years into the future and look at the same problem, something soooo technologically impossible to you might be a walk in the park for future scientists, and you're are also over thinking it way too much, when game developers make a game they use computers to synthesize or fill in gaps, the computer is filling in the spaces and you don't have to worry about simulating every single pixel!


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 12:12 PM by 1nf1del
Originally posted by AkumaStreak
reply to
post by PrplHrt



Only if the universe is based on Asteroids. :-P

There would be wrap or an edge (bounds) or instant deallocation into a pool at some point. :-)

Actually, I take that back, there are ways to do it without an edge, but there would still be limits regarding precision and performance bounds that would probably be discoverable.
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They have been discovered.


reply posted on 18-12-2012 @ 12:19 PM by 1nf1del
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
Is therefore the programmer of this "simulation" a man living in his parents basement?

Simulations are simulations of reality, not reality itself. Simulations exist on computers, not anywhere else. Computers are made by man, not by anyone else. This whole idea is still the idea of intelligent design, only greatly exaggerated for modern understanding.

God is now a computer programmer? What was he before computers were conceived?

The simulation theory defies all logic. We know for fact that we exist outside of computers. We know for fact that we invented computers. We know for fact that we invented simulations. We know for fact that computers cannot harbour life. We know for fact that computers cannot create life. We know that only man puts data into computers. We know only man can program and write simulations. So therefore, the world is a computer simulation? What?

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You are trying to understand and apply logic to something that is apparently outside of your understanding, you are relying on the false assumption that there is a "god", buildings are made by man but when you were a kid you made forts, cars are made by man as well but when you were a kid you made go carts, see where I'm going with this? Think of this world as an ant farm, small primitive not at all capable of doing what we do on a grand scale, you have no idea what kind of "reality" is really out there, you are the character in the scene who doesn't realize he's not real and is trying to figure out the world around him but it is beyond his realm of understanding!


reply posted on 19-12-2012 @ 06:51 AM by ooYODAoo
reply to post by 1nf1del




ok now it makes sense, i was thinking more in the lines of the sims, or elder scrolls...


reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 01:08 PM by tomten
Originally posted by ooYODAoo
reply to
post by 1nf1del




ok now it makes sense, i was thinking more in the lines of the sims, or elder scrolls...


Yes..
It could be a Quantum Computer...
...that became conscious, and is running an advanced simulation of Life.


reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 01:25 PM by ooYODAoo
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very interesting, there are so many different "existence" theories. for example

*the "we live in the matrix" theory

*the "we are living inside an atom inside an organism theory"

*the simulation theory

*the theory that we are in fact creating our own existence, and you are a figment of my imagination.

*the theory that we originated from mars and were "seeded" here on earth by our ancestors who were fleeing a dying planet

and those theories aren't even the tip of the iceberg. unfortunately all we can do is speculate and im sad to say that we will never know the true meaning of our origins in our lifetim.

but who knows maybe in our "next" life journey we will


reply posted on 26-12-2012 @ 06:51 PM by Aleister
Originally posted by DrumsRfun
reply to
post by 0bserver1



I am not sure I believe it or not but I will add this video as my contribution to your thread.



I thought this video was interesting.

At about 3 minutes 50 seconds is the interesting part.
edit on 11-12-2012 by DrumsRfun because: (no reason given)



Philip K. Dick would have loved living in the now we're living in, with the information flow going a mile a second, his knowingnesses being proven scientifically, and even his writing more popular than ever. He was years ahead of his time - but he would say that's how it was programmed - and to catch him at his best was to become immersed in what may be the truth of it all.


reply posted on 3-1-2013 @ 07:29 PM by galadofwarthethird
reply to post by 0bserver1


Observe the change in reality brought upon by observing that reality.

Second.


reply posted on 29-1-2013 @ 03:05 AM by 1nf1del
Originally posted by ooYODAoo
reply to
post by tomten





very interesting, there are so many different "existence" theories. for example

*the "we live in the matrix" theory

*the simulation theory

*the theory that we are in fact creating our own existence, and you are a figment of my imagination.

and those theories aren't even the tip of the iceberg. unfortunately all we can do is speculate and im sad to say that we will never know the true meaning of our origins in our lifetim.

but who knows maybe in our "next" life journey we will


These can all fit in the same box, the "matrix" that most refer to is what is believed to be a "program", as far as creating our own existence, when you play the Sims and they ask for something do you give it to them or just ignore the game until it crashes?
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