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Originally posted by schuyler
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
Weapons are tools of the weak and making plans in advance to hoard is selfish and stupid.
So then, you must be planning on other people to feed you rather than be reliant on yourself. Although that's a pretty common theme these days, it might not work in a SHTF scenario when the government is not taking such good care of you. I mean, your food stamps aren't going to work, though maybe you can eat your EBT card for a little roughage.
You are right, though. Weapons are a tool of the weak. For example, they can make a weak 120 pound woman equal to a strong 200 pound man. Not such a bad deal if you ask me.
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by Trublbrwing
Watch a film called the road and come back saying we do not need weapons.
Originally posted by followtheevidence
What about weapons for the purpose of hunting? I'd say that's pretty reasonable.
Originally posted by Klassified
reply to post by watchitburn
You are being naive, and someone is going to have you for breakfast.
You may be more spot on with that statement than you know.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
I find it very disturbing to read about, and see on television, people preparing for disaster by stockpiling weapons, ammunition and supplies. Isn't this the same material we built our current house of horrors from?
Weapons are tools of the weak and making plans in advance to hoard is selfish and stupid.
Pawn your guns and buy some first aid supplies and blankets, the wall of thankful people around you will protect you much better than any weapon.
This is denial of what it means to be human. Throughout history we have proven that there will always be humans with a hunger for power. We can't get away from this fact. And, greed - without guns I guarantee you that there will be those that will take your stuff from you. It's just human nature; sad, but undeniable.
Originally posted by PurpleVortex
I find it more disturbing and selfish of you to even start this rant. Long story short, what if the SHTF and I kick your door to loot your belongings and point a gun to your face cause I'm prepared. Are you?... Scenarios like these deter us of our moralities, and kick start our survival instincts. It's a good idea to be prepared for any situation, unless you don't mind being a pawn in the long run. Live in the now, be prepared for the future.
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
Originally posted by PurpleVortex
I find it more disturbing and selfish of you to even start this rant. Long story short, what if the SHTF and I kick your door to loot your belongings and point a gun to your face cause I'm prepared. Are you?... Scenarios like these deter us of our moralities, and kick start our survival instincts. It's a good idea to be prepared for any situation, unless you don't mind being a pawn in the long run. Live in the now, be prepared for the future.
OK, I'll play along.
You kick in a door but I'm not on the other side of it, instead you kicked in the door of someone like yourself, unfortunately that person has an AK47 with a full clip and he saw you coming ten minutes ago.
You just kicked in the door of gangster rapper 50 cent and he now has a new gun, yours.
He’s gone from “Straight Outta Southside” to straight-to-DVD.
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
I find it very disturbing to read about, and see on television, people preparing for disaster by stockpiling weapons, ammunition and supplies. Isn't this the same material we built our current house of horrors from?
Weapons are tools of the weak and making plans in advance to hoard is selfish and stupid.
Pawn your guns and buy some first aid supplies and blankets, the wall of thankful people around you will protect you much better than any weapon.
This is denial of what it means to be human. Throughout history we have proven that there will always be humans with a hunger for power. We can't get away from this fact. And, greed - without guns I guarantee you that there will be those that will take your stuff from you. It's just human nature; sad, but undeniable.
I honestly don't believe that type of behavior is human nature, it's something we've learned to do over time. The majority of Native American tribes had no concept of crime, punishment or greed before our arrival.
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
The majority of Native American tribes had no concept of crime, punishment or greed before our arrival.
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
Originally posted by schuyler
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
Weapons are tools of the weak and making plans in advance to hoard is selfish and stupid.
So then, you must be planning on other people to feed you rather than be reliant on yourself. Although that's a pretty common theme these days, it might not work in a SHTF scenario when the government is not taking such good care of you. I mean, your food stamps aren't going to work, though maybe you can eat your EBT card for a little roughage.
You are right, though. Weapons are a tool of the weak. For example, they can make a weak 120 pound woman equal to a strong 200 pound man. Not such a bad deal if you ask me.
Clearly you've never shot a man, sometimes they just keep on coming.
Originally posted by DocHolidaze
reply to post by pheonix358
It seems you do not want to give them credit were credit is due, although they were warriors, and killed each other long before the white-mans influence. They did care for the land and realized that the land is why they lived. Compared to what we have done with the land that allows us to live they were noble caretakers. Were we are all now unprejudiced takers of the land, no better than common rapists, when compared to the hunter gatherer natives.
Originally posted by pheonix358
reply to post by DocHolidaze
I do not think that they were any more Noble than we are. Individually many of us are Noble and I am sure many of them were as well. But I do not think they should be on a pedal stool of their own making.
We do much more against mother nature simply because we have the advanced tools to do so.
A bulldozer can do a great more damage than say a horse!
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Originally posted by DocHolidaze
reply to post by Trublbrwing
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by Trublbrwing
I find it very disturbing to read about, and see on television, people preparing for disaster by stockpiling weapons, ammunition and supplies. Isn't this the same material we built our current house of horrors from?
Weapons are tools of the weak and making plans in advance to hoard is selfish and stupid.
Pawn your guns and buy some first aid supplies and blankets, the wall of thankful people around you will protect you much better than any weapon.
This is denial of what it means to be human. Throughout history we have proven that there will always be humans with a hunger for power. We can't get away from this fact. And, greed - without guns I guarantee you that there will be those that will take your stuff from you. It's just human nature; sad, but undeniable.
I honestly don't believe that type of behavior is human nature, it's something we've learned to do over time. The majority of Native American tribes had no concept of crime, punishment or greed before our arrival.
thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard, native Americans killed each other and went to war over territory many of times. what ever kindergarten book you got your info out of is wrong. Natives killed Natives long before the white man came through. DO some research before you start spouting off blatant lies.edit on 11-12-2012 by DocHolidaze because: (no reason given)
Disputes between tribes were rare and escalated after the arrival of European settlers.
Native American Warriors The art of war was a common part of life for ancient Native Americans. Native American warriors were an integral part of every Indian tribe, and were considered brave heroes. In most tribes Native American warriors were sculpted from birth. In fact, legend has it that after birth a future warrior’s umbilical cord was often buried on the battle field. This would signify that the child was born a warrior, and would dedicate his life to fighting for his people. In fact, some tribes a young Native American was only considered a man once he had made his first killing. Many ancient Native American warriors were the skin and hide of animals. This battlefield attire usually included a headpiece that was made from a head of a real animal. This apparel had both practical and spiritual origins. The animal skins would help the warriors hide from their enemies, and Native Americans also felt that it kept them closer to nature. They thought that this would help protect them. Native American warriors would often use homemade weapons. One of the most common was the spear, which was little more than a sharpened stick, measuring two feet long. Before going to battle the tribe would usually have a celebration for the Native American warrior. This celebration would consist of dancing, singing, and praying for the safe return of the fighter. At this time the warrior would paint his face with the blood of a sacrificial animal. This was thought to keep the fighter safe during battle. A similar celebration would be given once the warrior had returned having beaten the enemy. During this celebration, warriors were often presented the feathers from an eagle to acknowledge their accomplishments. These feathers would then be proudly displayed in a headdress. The warrior with the most feathers was usually considered the bravest and most accomplished.