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Thank you for such lovely sentiments, but remember, I am just a silly old man
Originally posted by Tayesin
There is your problem...... You BELIEVE....
Belief is a poor shadow of Knowing Directly.
Belief will create Limitaitons to your understanding and what you can experience. So DROP the Belief.
As I said on page 2... there is nothing you can do to harm the Soul.. it is simply far too big and powerful. So that tells you the Belief you are attached to is wrong.. so drop it.
Originally posted by Tayesin
And you know this how ?
Have you put in years and years of practice to Know by direct experience, or are you simply stating what you Think is right ?
I do not ask you to Believe me.. I would prefer you put in the years of practice as I have so that you too can come to Know for Yourself. I can help start you off with some very simply meditation methods I used and developed further, then used in groups for over 15 years now so that others can come to know for themselves also.
There are people who do Know, and we are here to help others find it for themselves.
Originally posted by jheherrin
Because I've spent most of my life studying the subject deeply, among other mysteries of life.
I have been meditating daily since I was a teenager, and I am elderly now. At one time in my life I spent most of my waking hours in meditation and I did that for over a decade. I have practiced all sorts of meditation techniques, old and modern. Now, I see meditation as programming of the the mind, and I view nothing 'spiritual' about it.
No, you have a belief. You don't know the truth about 'souls' anymore than anyone else who ever walked on this planet. You live under this false assumption that all people have to do is this and then that, and the reality of 'souls' will be apparent. It's pure woo. Spiritual people can never see the forest thru the trees. Once they develop a belief in some aspect of spirituality they go seeking confirmation and will deny anything else that doesn't align with their beliefs. They never understand that 'gut' instincts can be wrong, the mind can trick you, can fill in the blanks with your imagination. There's a reason why people who seek this sort of stuff are generally 'lost souls', but it has little to do with spirituality.
Originally posted by jheherrin
Originally posted by Tayesin
And you know this how ?
Because I've spent most of my life studying the subject deeply, among other mysteries of life.
Have you put in years and years of practice to Know by direct experience, or are you simply stating what you Think is right ?
I absolutely have. I spent most of my life in spiritual and religious research, application and study.
I do not ask you to Believe me.. I would prefer you put in the years of practice as I have so that you too can come to Know for Yourself. I can help start you off with some very simply meditation methods I used and developed further, then used in groups for over 15 years now so that others can come to know for themselves also.
I have been meditating daily since I was a teenager, and I am elderly now. At one time in my life I spent most of my waking hours in meditation and I did that for over a decade. I have practiced all sorts of meditation techniques, old and modern. Now, I see meditation as programming of the the mind, and I view nothing 'spiritual' about it.
There are people who do Know, and we are here to help others find it for themselves.
No, you have a belief. You don't know the truth about 'souls' anymore than anyone else who ever walked on this planet. You live under this false assumption that all people have to do is this and then that, and the reality of 'souls' will be apparent. It's pure woo. Spiritual people can never see the forest thru the trees. Once they develop a belief in some aspect of spirituality they go seeking confirmation and will deny anything else that doesn't align with their beliefs. They never understand that 'gut' instincts can be wrong, the mind can trick you, can fill in the blanks with your imagination. There's a reason why people who seek this sort of stuff are generally 'lost souls', but it has little to do with spirituality.
Originally posted by 1nf1del
Originally posted by jheherrin
Originally posted by Tayesin
And you know this how ?
Because I've spent most of my life studying the subject deeply, among other mysteries of life.
Have you put in years and years of practice to Know by direct experience, or are you simply stating what you Think is right ?
I absolutely have. I spent most of my life in spiritual and religious research, application and study.
I do not ask you to Believe me.. I would prefer you put in the years of practice as I have so that you too can come to Know for Yourself. I can help start you off with some very simply meditation methods I used and developed further, then used in groups for over 15 years now so that others can come to know for themselves also.
I have been meditating daily since I was a teenager, and I am elderly now. At one time in my life I spent most of my waking hours in meditation and I did that for over a decade. I have practiced all sorts of meditation techniques, old and modern. Now, I see meditation as programming of the the mind, and I view nothing 'spiritual' about it.
There are people who do Know, and we are here to help others find it for themselves.
No, you have a belief. You don't know the truth about 'souls' anymore than anyone else who ever walked on this planet. You live under this false assumption that all people have to do is this and then that, and the reality of 'souls' will be apparent. It's pure woo. Spiritual people can never see the forest thru the trees. Once they develop a belief in some aspect of spirituality they go seeking confirmation and will deny anything else that doesn't align with their beliefs. They never understand that 'gut' instincts can be wrong, the mind can trick you, can fill in the blanks with your imagination. There's a reason why people who seek this sort of stuff are generally 'lost souls', but it has little to do with spirituality.
Studying from a book another ignorant human being wrote is perpetuating ignorance, how can you know what kind of spiritual experience another person had? You have an ignorant dogmatic view of stuff you read in a book, some of us have been "awakened" until it happens to you you have no clue what you are even addressing, have you ever had an OBE or NDE? I used to be an Atheist until two months ago, I used to speak as ignorant as you!
Originally posted by TheSubversiveOne
Originally posted by 1nf1del
Originally posted by jheherrin
Originally posted by Tayesin
And you know this how ?
Because I've spent most of my life studying the subject deeply, among other mysteries of life.
Have you put in years and years of practice to Know by direct experience, or are you simply stating what you Think is right ?
I absolutely have. I spent most of my life in spiritual and religious research, application and study.
I do not ask you to Believe me.. I would prefer you put in the years of practice as I have so that you too can come to Know for Yourself. I can help start you off with some very simply meditation methods I used and developed further, then used in groups for over 15 years now so that others can come to know for themselves also.
I have been meditating daily since I was a teenager, and I am elderly now. At one time in my life I spent most of my waking hours in meditation and I did that for over a decade. I have practiced all sorts of meditation techniques, old and modern. Now, I see meditation as programming of the the mind, and I view nothing 'spiritual' about it.
There are people who do Know, and we are here to help others find it for themselves.
No, you have a belief. You don't know the truth about 'souls' anymore than anyone else who ever walked on this planet. You live under this false assumption that all people have to do is this and then that, and the reality of 'souls' will be apparent. It's pure woo. Spiritual people can never see the forest thru the trees. Once they develop a belief in some aspect of spirituality they go seeking confirmation and will deny anything else that doesn't align with their beliefs. They never understand that 'gut' instincts can be wrong, the mind can trick you, can fill in the blanks with your imagination. There's a reason why people who seek this sort of stuff are generally 'lost souls', but it has little to do with spirituality.
Studying from a book another ignorant human being wrote is perpetuating ignorance, how can you know what kind of spiritual experience another person had? You have an ignorant dogmatic view of stuff you read in a book, some of us have been "awakened" until it happens to you you have no clue what you are even addressing, have you ever had an OBE or NDE? I used to be an Atheist until two months ago, I used to speak as ignorant as you!
What you accomplished in the dream world carried over to your real world? You put your dreams as less illusory than reality? And you speak of ignorance?