Why Do People Hate the Jews? A Look at Anti-Semitism

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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 05:55 PM
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Pre-Zionism:


Roman Catholic Church + Easter Sermon = bad time to be Jewish !


Of course there are a myriad of reasons - some obvious - some nuanced.


Today:

Israeli expansionism -




posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by UmbraSumus
reply to post by Cosmic911
 


Pre-Zionism:


Roman Catholic Church + Easter Sermon = bad time to be Jewish !


Of course there are a myriad of reasons - some obvious - some nuanced.


Today:

Israeli expansionism -


The first bit is actually okay for religious Jews if the Messiah is in fact Jesus, it even makes a kind of sense.
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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 06:19 PM
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Why do they hate others?



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 06:50 PM
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First off 'Jew-hater' is an ADL term. Most people who are aware of this issue call themselves Jew-Wise, not necessarily hating all Jews, there are plenty of good jews, Bobby Fischer, for example, David Cole, Norman Finkelstein, Benjamin Freedman, Ayn Rand. So if you are really interested in why people 'hate' jews, shouldn't you look at more than just pro-jewish sources? In order to be non-biased, you have to go to the source, right? So who better than Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf. Plenty of explanation there. Basically anyone who wonders, 'why do people hate jews,' and yet doesn't read mein kampf is just being dishonest or naive. That would be like asking why people hate Iran but never reading anything the US or Israel says about them.

Now since I broke the covenant rule of ats by talking about hitler, I fully expect this comment to be removed and my account banned, so if you're really interested, go here

zioncrimefactory.com...

To have a discussion where you can learn firsthand why people are opposed to Jewish Supremacism.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by Floydshayvious
I don't agree with anything that puts any one HUMAN over and above another HUMAN because of "mind stuff".

Disagreeing with religious or political fanaticism in any form does not mean hate towards humans or their plight.


But "mind stuff" is exactly what puts one human above another. You must be stupid and hate the idea that smart people know they are better than you. They think that because they are. Stupid people are useless eaters and good for nothing but labor. The stupid among us are lesser beings because they cannot comprehend simple things that smart people can.

People are not equal. Not even close. Some are better than others. The only ones who spout drivel about equality are most likely to be the ones who are inferior and are upset about their position in life. Dumb people like to think they can make things better for themselves, but you can't fix stupid. No matter how hard you try.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by arthurfonzarelli
as a jew i will tell you why

becausee most of us are brainwashed sheeple like the rest of you


the zionists and their willing house slaves destroy everything they touch and then call themselves jews

during yhe 2nd ww it was the zionists that brainwashed the jews into boycotting germany because hitler wanted to jail the zionist bankers for fiscally enslaving germany.

sort of like what they are doong to your america now.

when the jews fell for the propaganda and boycotted in turn the germans boyvotted them and clearly labeled their shops so non jews woupd know who to boycott

it got to tje ppint where germanywanted all jews out because of this whoch was the zionists master plan all along
the creation pf that abhorrant #hole called israel

our families were placed in camps until countries couod be found where we were to be deported to

there were no mass targeted killings
thats the zio media at playto leep is fighting

in my opinoon, either hitler was a straight up dude who tried to rid ger,any of the bankers and got double crossed or he was in on the creation of israel scam

ask yourself this
why were they called nazis and the zionists are ashke nazis
why were there 170k high ranking jews in hitlers armed forces

thesame can be said about americas history
zzionists creared amd dpminated your slave trade andthen blamed christians with white skon for ot
divide and conquer

are you seriously going to tell me the the 75k blacl confederates that fought for the south were slaves?
no
,matter of fact they were slave owners
yes you jeard that right
therabbit hole id deep alice

keep looking and one day you might decipher the gramdvplan and it is a spiritual war
earth is hell and the devils chosen do control it


^ THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS

During WW2 the zionists movement became popular amongst desperate jews trying to flee the Nazi prosecution. The zionists movement offered a way out, the destination is ONLY palestine.

to many orthodox jews this was no way possible, only the messiah will grant the jews a return to the holy land, so they refused to go to palestine, yet they still wanted the zionists to help them out of Nazi occupied areas but the zionists refused.

they only helped those willing to live in Palestine, thus the zionists hit 2 birds with 1 stone.

1. they managed to gather all their supporters in Palestine
2. the true jews were left to starve and die in concentration camps, and so the biggest obstacle to zionism was eliminated

The orthodox jews are a forgotten victim of zionsim, in fact the zionist used the jews and their suffering to advance the zionist agenda.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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There are so many factors, and OP did a good job of covering them in brief detail.

There isn't one straightforward reason that they have been hated throughout history. There seems to have been a different reason over the years. Some Christians hated them because they think that they were responsible for killing their savior. They may have been partially responsible, as they were the ones that paid Judas the 30 pieces of silver and such, but the Romans were probably more responsible if anything, because they were the ones that actually physically killed him. So why don't Christians hate Italians? It doesn't make sense to hate one group that was partially responsible and not all of them.

Then you have the white supremacist reasoning that I won't even get into in great detail just because it's so absurd. The idea that Jews have been gradually trying to erode white civilization for years now and will eventually take it over. That belongs in the conspiracy bin along with all the David Icke crap.

Some people might hate them due to the arrogance of their religion, stating that "We are God's chosen race" and all that. That one can cause a lot of grief. It's like walking into a pub and exclaiming "I'm the toughest person in here!" Wouldn't end too well, would it?


As for the racial theories?... nah. I think it's more to do with religion and politics, not race. I don't think an entire group of people would be hated and persecuted for thousands of years just because of the way they look. I'm certainly not that stupid and shallow. Maybe some people are though


Maybe people are jealous of their lovely thick hair
(Think Elaine on Seinfeld)
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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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Wow.

Thank you for that because you know, since I'm not a jew I'm not allowed to say stuff like that without being called every damn "anti" label on earth.

Star. cheers.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:46 PM
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They hate the jews because they are not smart enough to see that they are picking up and retaining the planned propaganda. They are not bright enough to see that the ones they accuse of being sheep are actually spot on. They think they see past the veil when it is them that is behind the veil....

Do you think that all of these internet crusaders are smarter than the designers??? The plan was designed with you tools in mind. The propaganda is meant for you... Your impressionable... Obviously!

I will say this.... I've never witnessed a more pathetic bunch, so positive, questioning ZERO if it confirms them, while swallowing everything that opposes them..... funny actually!
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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:46 PM
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I just realized I don't know any Jews, personally.
So I wondered how many poster here do.

I wonder how many people form opinions of people they have no personal relationships with.
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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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No single group in America is loved as the Jews are loved.........anti-semitism is a myth - an invention of the Zionist's...................



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:52 PM
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+ I know some of them are doing wrong things in the name of Jews.


And that goes for everyone else on the planet too.

I am sure there are Palestinians that do wrong things in the name of Palestinians.

and Christians that do wrong thing in the name of Christianity.

yada yada

and this Zionist thingy, is there any other group of people with a label?

And how do you tell a Zionist Jew from an ordinary Jew?
Like,
Do you ask a Jew, hey, are you a Zionist?

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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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Jewish Persecution | Timeline of Judaism | History of AntiSemitism
Lesser Known Highlights of Jewish International
Relations In The Common Era (an Abbreviated sampling)
DATE PLACE EVENT
250 C.E. Canhage Expulsion
224 C.E. Italy Forced Conversion
325 C.E. Jerusalem Expulsion
351 C.E Persia Book Burning
357 C.E. Italy Property Confiscation
379 C.E. Milan Synagogue Burning
415 C.E. Alexandria Expulsion
418 C.E. Minorca Forced Conversion
469 C.E. Ipahan Holocaust
489 C.E. Antioch Synagogue Burning
506 C.E. Daphne Synagogue Burning
519 C.E. Ravenna Synagogue Burning
554 C.E. Diocese of Clement (France) Expulsion
561 C.E. Diocese of Uzes (France) Expulsion
582 C.E Merovingia Forced Conversion
612 C.E. Visigoth Spain Expulsion
628 C.E. Byzantium Forced Conversion
629 C.E. Merovingia Forced Conversion
633 C.E. Toledo Forced Conversion
638 C.E. Toledo Stake Burnings
642 C.E. Visigothic Empire Expulsion
653 C.E. Toledo Expulsion
681 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion
693 C.E. Toledo Jews Enslaved
722 C.E. Byzantium Judaism Outlawed
855 C.E. Italy Expulsion
876 C.E. Sens Expulsion
897 C.E. Narbonne Land Confiscation
945 C.E. Venice Ban on Sea Travel
1009 C.E. Orleans Massacre
1012 C.E. Rouen, Limoges & Rome Massacre
1012 C.E. Mayence Expulsion
1021 C.E. Rome Jews Burned Alive
1063 C.E. Spain Massacre
1095 C.E. Lorraine Massacre
1096 C.E. Northern France & Germany 1/3 of Jewish Population Massacred
1096 C.E. Hungary Massacre
1096 C.E. Ralisbon Massacre
1099 C.E. Jerusalem Jews Burned Alive
1100 C.E. Kiev Pogrom
1140 C.E. Germany Massacres
1146 C.E. Rhine Valley Massacre
1147 C.E. Wurzburg Massacre
1147 C.E. Belitz (Germany) Jews Burned Alive
1147 C.E. Carenton, Ramenu & Sully (France) Massacres
1171 C.E. Blois Stake Burnings
1181 C.E. France Expulsion
1181 C.E. England Property Confiscation
1188 C.E. London & York Mob Attacks
1190 C.E. Norfolk Jews Burned Alive
1191 C.E. Bray (France) Jews Burned Alive
1195 C.E. France Property Confiscation
1209 C.E. Beziers Massacre
1212 C.E. Spain Rioting and blood bath against the Jews of Toledo.
1215 C.E. Rome Lateran Council of Rome decrees that Jews must wear the "badge of shame" in all Christian countries. Jews are denied all public sector employment, and are burdened with extra taxes.
1215 C.E. Toulouse (France) Mass Arrests
1218 C.E. England Jews Forced to Wear Badges
1231 C.E. Rome Inquisition Established
1236 C.E. France Forced Conversion/Massacre
1239 C.E. London Massacre & Property Confiscation
1240 C.E. Austria Property confiscation. Jews either imprisoned, converted, expelled, or burned.
1240 C.E. France Talmud Confiscated
1240 C.E. England Book Burning
1240 C.E. Spain Forced Conversion
1242 C.E. Paris Talmud Burned
1244 C.E. Oxford Mob Attacks
1255 C.E. England Blood libel in Lincoln results in the burning / torture of many Jews & public hangings.
1261 C.E. Canterbury Mob Attacks
1262 C.E. London Mob Attacks
1264 C.E. London Mob Attacks
1264 C.E. Germany Council of Vienna declares that all Jews must wear a "pointed dunce cap." Thousands murdered.
1267 C.E. Vienna Jews Forced to Wear Horned Hats
1270 C.E. Weissenberg, Magdeburg, Arnstadt, Coblenz, Singzig, and Erfurt Jews Burned Alive
1270 C.E. England The libel of the "counterfeit coins" - all Jewish men, women and children in England imprisoned. Hundreds are hung.
1276 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
1278 C.E. Genoa (Spain) Mob Attacks
1279 C.E. Hungary & Poland The Council of Offon denies Jews the right to all civic positions. The Jews of Hungary & Poland are forced to wear the "red badge of shame."
1283 C.E. Mayence & Bacharach Mob Attacks
1285 C.E. Munich Jews Burned Alive
1290 C.E. England King Edward I issues an edict banishing all Jews from England. Many drowned.
1291 C.E. France The Jewish refugees from England are promptly expelled from France.
1292 C.E. Italy Forced conversions & expulsion of the Italian Jewish community.
1298 C.E. Germany The libel of the "Desecrated Host" is perpetrated against the Jews of Germany. Approximately 150 Jewish communities undergo forced conversion.
1298 C.E. Franconia, Bavaria & Austria Reindfel's Decree is propagated against the Jews of Franconia and Bavarai. Riots against these Jewish communities, as well as those in Austria, result in the massacre of 100,000 Jews over a six-month period.
1306 C.E. France Expulsion
1308 C.E. Strasbourg Jews Burned Alive
1320 C.E. Toulouse & Perpigon 120 Communities Massacred & Talmud Burned
1321 C.E. Teruel Public Executions
1328 C.E. Estella 5,000 Jews Slaughtered
1348 C.E. France & Spain Jews Burned Alive
1348 C.E. Switzerland Expulsion
1349 C.E. Worms, Strasbourg, Oppenheim, Mayence, Erfurt, Bavaria & Swabia Jews Burned Alive
1349 C.E. Heilbronn (Germany) Expulsion
1349 C.E. Hungary Expulsion
1354 C.E. Castile (Spain) 12,000 Jews Slaughtered
1368 C.E. Toledo



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1370 C.E. Majorca., Penignon & Barcelona Mob Attack
1377 C.E. Huesca (Spain) Jews Burned Alive
1380 C.E. Paris Mob Attack
1384 C.E. Nordlingen Mass Murder
1388 C.E. Strasbourg Expulsion
1389 C.E. Prague Mass Slaughter & Book Burning
1391 C.E. Castille, Toledo, Madrid, Seville, Cordova, Cuenca & Barcelona Forced Conversions & Mass Murder
1394 C.E. Germany Expulsion
1394 C.E. France Expulsion
1399 C.E. Posen (Poland) Jews Burned Alive
1400 C.E. Prague Stake Burnings
1407 C.E. Cracow Mob Attack
1415 C.E. Rome Talmud Confiscated
1422 C.E. Austria Jews Burned Alive
1422 C.E. Austria Expulsion
1424 C.E. Fribourg & Zurich Expulsion
1426 C.E. Cologne Expulsion
1431 C.E. Southern Germany Jews Burned Alive
1432 C.E. Savory Expulsion
1438 C.E. Mainz Expulsion
1439 C.E. Augsburg Expulsion
1449 C.E. Toledo Public Torture &. Burnings
1456 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
1453 C.E. Franconia Expulsion
1453 C.E. Breslau Expulsion
1454 C.E. Wurzburg Expulsion
1463 C.E. Cracow Mob Attack
1473 C.E. Andalusia Mob Attack
1480 C.E. Venice Jews Burned Alive
1481 C.E. Seville Stake Burnings
1484 C.E. Cuidad Real, Guadalupe, Saragossa & Teruel Jews Burned Alive
1485 C.E. Vincenza (Italy) Expulsion
1486 C.E. Toledo Jews Burned Alive
1488 C.E. Toledo Stake Burnings
1490 C.E. Toledo Public Executions
1491 C.E. Astorga Public Torture & Execution
1492 C.E. Spain Expulsion
1495 C.E. Lithuania Expulsion
1497 C.E. Portugal Expulsion
1499 C.E. Germany Expulsion
1506 C.E. Lisbon Mob Attack
1510 C.E. Berlin Public Torture & Execution
1514 C.E. Strasbourg Expulsion
1519 C.E. Regensburg Expulsion
1539 C.E. Cracow & Portugal Stake Burnings
1540 C.E. Naples Expulsion
1542 C.E. Bohemia Expulsion
1550 C.E. Genoa Expulsion
1551 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
1555 C.E. Pesaro Expulsion
1556 C.E. Sokhachev (Poland) Public Torture & Execution
1559 C.E. Austria Expulsion
1561 C.E. Prague Expulsion
1567 C.E. Wurzburg Expulsion
1569 C.E. Papal States Expulsion
1571 C.E. Brandenburg Expulsion
1582 C.E. Netherlands Expulsion
1593 C.E. Brunswick Expulsion
1597 C.E. Cremona, Pavia & Lodi Expulsion
1614 C.E. Frankfort Expulsion
1615 C.E. Worms Expulsion
1619 C.E. Kiev Expulsion
1635 C.E. Vilna Mob Attack
1637 C.E. Cracow Public Torture & Execution
1647 C.E. Lisbon Jews Burned Alive
1648 C.E. Poland 1/3 of Jewry Slaughtered
1649 C.E. Ukraine Expulsion
1649 C.E. Hamburg Expulsion
1652 C.E. Lisbon Stake Burnings
1654 C.E. Little Russia Expulsion
1656 C.E. Lithuania Expulsion
1660 C.E. Seville Jews Burned Alive
1663 C.E Cracow Public Torture &. Execution
1664 C.E. Lemberg Mob Attack
1669 C.E. Oran (North Africa) Expulsion
1670 C.E. Vienna Expulsion
1671 C.E. Minsk Mob Attacks
1681 C.E. Vilna Mob Attacks
1682 C.E. Cracow Mob Attacks
1687 C.E. Posen Mob Attacks
1712 C.E. Sandomir Expulsion
1727 C.E. Russia Expulsion
1738 C.E. Wurtemburg Expulsion
1740 C.E. Liule Russia Expulsion
1744 C.E Bohemia Expulsion
1744 C.E. Livonia Expulsion
1745 C.E. Moravia Expulsion
1753 C.E. Kovad (Lithuania) Expulsion
1757 C.E. Kamenetz Talmud Burning
1761 C.E. Bordeaux Expulsion
1768 C.E. Kiev 3,000 Jews Slaughtered
1772 C.E. Russia Expulsion
1775 C.E. Warsaw Expulsion
1789 C.E. Alsace Expulsion
1801 C.E. Bucharest Mob Attack
1804 C.E. Russian Villages Expulsion
1808 C.E. Russian Countryside Expulsion
1815 C.E. Lubeck & Bremen Expulsion
1820 C.E. Bremes Expulsion
1843 C.E. Austria & Prussia Expulsion
1850 C.E. New York City 500 People, Led by Police, Attacked & Wrecked Jewish Synagogue
1862 C.E. Area under General Grant's Jurisdiction in the United States Expulsion
1866 C.E Galatz (Romania) Expulsion
1871 C.E. Odena Mob Attack
1887 C.E. Slovakia Mob Attacks
1897 C.E. Kantakuzenka (Russia) Mob Attacks
1898 C.E. Rennes (France) Mob Attack
1899 C.E. Nicholayev Mob Attack
1900 C.E. Konitz (Prussia) Mob Attack
1902 C.E. Poland Widespread Pogroms
1904 C.E. Manchuria, Kiev & Volhynia Widespread Pogroms
1905 C.E. Zhitomir (Yolhynia) Mob Attacks
1919 C.E Bavaria Expulsion
1915 C.E. Georgia (U.S.A.) Leo Frank Lynched
1919 C.E. Prague Wide Spread Pogroms
1920 C.E. Munich & Breslau Mob Attacks
1922 C.E. Boston, MA Lawrence Lowell, President of Harvard, calls for Quota Restrictions on Jewish Admission
1926 C.E. Uzbekistan Pogrom
1928 C.E. Hungary Widespread Anti-Semitic Riots on University Campuses
1929 C.E. Lemberg (Poland) Mob Attacks
1930 C.E. Berlin Mob Attack
1933 C.E. Bucharest Mob Attacks
1938-45 C.E. Europe Holocaust

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posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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It is amazing the amount of ignorance in this thread, the amount of "someone said this so I believe it" in this thread, the amount of ignoring what is not convenient. Never mind, it is not amazing, it is simply what happens on ATS in any thread about Jews or Israel.

The sad part is that if someone started a thread about Christianity where the same type of stuff was posted this place would go ballistic. You want answers to the questions in this thread...start by looking in the mirror.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 08:25 PM
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Read your list and really think about it. Does something there NOT add up? We're to believe that throughout all known history and across the globe they were oppressed, expelled, and genocided. But here's the funny part, THEY KEPT RETURNING TO THESE PLACES.

And even when they got their much fabled chosen land to give them a place free of persecution, they STILL meddle in all the world's business.

I don't know about you but if there were clear cut populations known for doing such dastardly things to my people, I'd steer clear of them. You can't be in a constant state of suffering yet pretty much be running the world at the same time. It doesn't add up.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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The Jewish people were called by G-d to be a Holy People. Throughout the ages, the Jewish people have always stayed true and faithful to adhering to G-d and His commandments, despite many obstacles and setbacks. When some may have fallen away from the true faith, there has always been a remnant that has held steadfast to His calling.

The Jews are hated because they are a Holy People. Everywhere they have been, they have created amazing intellectual, commercial, and civil societies, only to be hated by their fellow citizenry for their achievements. We see this even in the Old Testament, where Egypt persecuted the Jewish people because they felt threatened by the greatness of His people.

This hatred and envy towards the Jewish people is historical and biblical, and it is thousands of years old.

Just read about the conflicts between Jacob (Israel) and Esau (Edom, now considered Rome according to many rabbinical commentaries). Read about the conflicts between Isaac (Israel's father) and Ismael (considered to be the ancestral line of the modern-day Islamic Arabs).

These disputes are thousands of years old, and continue now even to our modern day.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 09:17 PM
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They were also initially blamed for the Jack the Ripper murders in Whitechapel. Some were beaten in the streets even though there was absolutely zero evidence that Jack the Ripper was a Jew.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Cosmic911
you cannot deny crimes committed against Jewish people. I'm pretty sure 6.5 million Jews didn't put themselves in ovens and cook themselves. Do you still think these people weren't hated, or is it just me? Talk about pathetic.


yes crimes were committed against Jewish people AND other cultures all over the world as well.

for example: approximately 50 million Native Indians that were slaughtered for the land in North America.

thats just 1 example. Just wondering if you ever think about the other cultures that have suffered on this planet too? or do we all just have to focus on jewish suffering?

I find that to be very odd.



posted on Dec, 4 2012 @ 10:36 PM
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A little unrelated but i was reading a book the other day that went into detail about 'the Black Death'.

Initially, people of Europe believed the Jews were responsible, so they massacred them.

bpjews.tripod.com...
zionism-israel.com...

Hatred and fear of the Jews started way back before the 1300's, which was why this massacre was allowed to occur.



I dont have a problem with Jews today, but I do have a problem with Israel.
Those who want to link the two together, go for it. It only shows your 1930's style ignorance.





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