Why is it the corp heads at fault? Why blame corp heads for politicians who are crooked or simply can't manage a budget? Should the corporations come and save these cities with their profits so that these crooked city managers can spend spend spend some more? What a joke. From what I've read on these posts this town is a wasteland anyways, gone long ago. Let the city burn!

It won't really matter when the San Andreas fault slips.

Then there will be something to complain about.

This is just a prelude to something much much worse. If the rumors i hear are correct we're in a depression worse than 1929. This house of cards is about to get blown away by a tornado.

Originally posted by randomname
maximizing profits at the expense of those you employee. like using slave labor in china to make a sneaker for $1.30 and selling it in america for $200.

What about California companies, warehouses, distribution centers and manufacturers using illegal immigrants for cheap labor, paying off the corrupt state and local officials and paying 3rd world wages, while using government benefits and entitlements to help their cheap labor forces survive?

You may not believe it, but I have seen it in action and the conditions these (mostly Mexican) people live and work in right here in the USA (California) would shock you.

The level of corruption that enables this is even more shocking, and they get away with it.

Is it any wonder why the immigration laws in California are so relaxed and why there are so many illegals there now, with many more coming in daily?

They are essentially a cheap foreign workforce made available through payoffs to corrupt state and local governments, and ultimately Americans not only lose jobs and opportunities, they have to pay more in taxes to keep the system running.

Even the Chinese would admire the way things are going in these cases.

Corporations the problem lol lol
The state of calif is the most corporation unfriendly state in the US.

First because they have already driven so many corporations out the only way they can make money from the few remaining corporations is to keep increasing fees and taxes on them.

This only drives more companies out of the state.

California a state that has a lot of problems that are now coming to hit home.

The fact that this is happening, should not be suprising, or unexpected. When cities in a state are losing their ability to borrow money, the state has to issue IOU's to its employees, where promises were made and not met, where city government is corrupt, and federal laws are fully ignored, and unions are so involved in politics, is it any wonder?

Having lived in the state, it can be stated that this is rampent, and it is slowly failing, while states can not declare bankrupcy, California is running a deficit of 16 billion, and a debt of 617 billion dollars. And that is the state, not the individual cities. So that means many of the cities can not even rely on the State for help, and yet they refuse to cut back.

To make matters worse, the laws and regulations that regulate business in the state, are more often than not a mass of red tape where it is difficult for a business to run. Having lived in southern California, and working in the gas/convience store, it was amazing to see all of the different regulations that were required for running such. Not only did we have to comply with the federal and EPA, but also the state, county and city regulations, and all of it had to be followed to the letter. Starting a new business was hard, unless you were associated with a coporation. And all of it could be stopped by a challenge by the local community or any group who decided it did not like what you were doing, costing more money and time.

So is it any wonder that many businesses are leaving the state, and looking for more favorable states to set up? And don't think that Walmart is not feeling the effects of such. The last year that I was living there in Southern California, Walmart wanted to start to convert many of its stores to Super Walmarts, and many city councils were not only against such, but were holding hearings to hear about the viablity of such, and in the one I heard about, it was denied, seemed like many of the neighborhoods that would have benifitted from such were going to be denied.

What guns?? Only the criminals have guns in California. It nearly takes an act of congress to get one....I guess people could start building their own spears and stock up on baseball bats....OR they could legally purchase a crossbow

dbl

As they should..
Do you guys know how many active serial killers I am in San Bernardino..


Ahhh Just kiddin'

Originally posted by Bluesma
When I was a teen I wanted to be a cop, and used to go on ride-alongs in San Bernardino- it is a rather dangerous place!!

Well technically, if you're riding in a cop car, pretty much everywhere you go will seem dangerous.

That said, it doesn't have a reputation as a very safe place. But the arguments here confuse me. I've probably seen every argument in the world, including the importance of old-time folk music to raising children properly, being put by someone in in the Bay Area by t-shirt, bumper sticker, facial tattoo, what have you, but I have never seen a single anti-gun message anywhere. Maybe it's just assumed, like the way I don't see any "don't kill kittens" badges or signs.

I believe sanely regulated gun rights are very important. But it does seem a bit odd to read 'Oh no, there's not enough guns so all the people with guns are a serious problem'.

Originally posted by boymonkey74
Sorry I have never heard of the place before but it does sound like it is outa Sons of Anarchy.
Oh well at least the weather looks nice .

The Hells Angels were started in Fontana, 23 miles west of SB, or 2 roads over. That might be why.

I was born in SB, it was a slum back then, I'd hate to see it now.