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posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by The only 1 who knows the
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
 


Well This is what I recieved:

There may be a revolution in the USA or else a defenseless country will be taken over by Muslims. This is insane! This is Obama! The Coming of The Antichrist....They said if BO got re-elected this would happen.

Subject: Fwd: GUN CONTROL TREATY

CIVIL WAR IS COMING
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better. On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States.

The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. It will never happen! The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened.
Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws.

Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress.
We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public.

We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control. Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. Straight into socialism if Obama has his way... We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).
DON'T KEEP THIS - SEND IT OUT TO YOUR LIST

as a it professional these emails that say send it to everyone on your list are used by spammers to harvest email addresses and nothing more. oldest trick in the spammers playbook.




posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 06:25 AM
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reply to post by The only 1 who knows the
 


STOP

THE

damm

train right NOW.. ~!! the entire NET is exploding over this article but all in all I can NOT find Reuters ORIGINAL artitcle ..............even on Reuters home page.. !!!

so either this 'Reuters' article is fake or they took it down ~!!

we need a MAJOR FACT CHECK PEOPLE !!! LINK your source(S)~!!



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 06:26 AM
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reply to post by Komodo
 


Written by a man who is selling a book on US gun laws no less.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 06:27 AM
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If the list is true, that would ban just about all firearms in the US.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by khimbar
Where has this actually come from the government again other than the HR 1022, 110th Congress from 2007?

There doesn't seem to be anything other than an article written on a blog by someone who, and I'm sure this is only a coincidence, is selling a book on gun ownership laws.

edit on 21-11-2012 by khimbar because: (no reason given)


Someone on page one said this was from the Brady list. That remains to be proven. ( James Brady was disabled by a gunman trying to kill Reagan so they used his name to form an anti gun group. Way to take advantage of a disabled person you punks)

However the wiki on the Brady group says their mission statement claims, ,

The Brady Campaign, the Million Mom March and the Brady Center believe that a safer America can be achieved without banning all guns
en.wikipedia.org... -

Yet that list has every way possible to even ban sport guns and guns for self defense - let alone defending against a tyrannical government.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by khimbar
reply to post by Komodo
 


Written by a man who is selling a book on US gun laws no less.


exactly ..

and stating there's a Reuters article out there stating such .. but will not link the source to the damm article and ATS is taking it hook, line and sinker ..


and I would think there would be a EO for something this major .. and even if he does have one the SC will have to clear it FIRST ..



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 06:36 AM
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So all that's happened is someone selling a book has listed some guns from a list in 2007, and the whole internet believes it? And clicks to his website. And his book advert.

Wow. Man, people are so easily played.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 06:49 AM
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They will never take guns from Americans. IF they tried it would be instant civil war imo, I would think they would have to bring in UN troops to enforce it and I don't see that ending well for those troops lol Americans are nuts,



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by The only 1 who knows the
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
 


Well This is what I recieved:

There may be a revolution in the USA or else a defenseless country will be taken over by Muslims. This is insane! This is Obama! The Coming of The Antichrist....They said if BO got re-elected this would happen.

Subject: Fwd: GUN CONTROL TREATY

CIVIL WAR IS COMING
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better. On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States.

The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. It will never happen! The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened.
Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws.

Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress.
We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public.

We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control. Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. Straight into socialism if Obama has his way... We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).
DON'T KEEP THIS - SEND IT OUT TO YOUR LIST



This is ludicrous. First off, if citizen guns were taken away, a military to rival that of Europe, Russia, and China combined wouldn't exactly be "defenseless" against these magical Muslims who are going to somehow "take over" the US, now would we? I literally LOL'd when I read that part.

Anyhow, the President could sign a treaty that says all weapons of any kind are banned in the US forever, and do you know what it would do? Absolutely nothing. The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land, and supercedes all treaties. In other words, such a treaty would be immediately null and void because of the 2nd amendment.

So stop panicking folks, and go re-take that high school civics class. The guns aren't going anywhere.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by vkey08
While I agree with the 2nd amendment, there's nothing on that list that's any news to anyone.. Owning a Tec9 or an UZI has been verboten for a few years now....

And honestly... ya really don't need one if you're a good enough shot


Actually, they are both perfectly legal to own (Except maybe in California and a few other localities...), unless illegally converted to full auto. Even legal full auto UZI's can be had for $5,000 - $10,000 if you jump through some hoops...
www.subguns.com... 5&query=retrieval



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by Komodo
reply to post by The only 1 who knows the
 


STOP

THE

damm

train right NOW.. ~!! the entire NET is exploding over this article but all in all I can NOT find Reuters ORIGINAL artitcle ..............even on Reuters home page.. !!!

so either this 'Reuters' article is fake or they took it down ~!!

we need a MAJOR FACT CHECK PEOPLE !!! LINK your source(S)~!!


I am always floored when people in the day of the internet do not take even five minutes to fact check. This whole thread needs to be locked down as a lie/hoax.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by Helmkat

Originally posted by Komodo
reply to post by The only 1 who knows the
 


STOP

THE

damm

train right NOW.. ~!! the entire NET is exploding over this article but all in all I can NOT find Reuters ORIGINAL artitcle ..............even on Reuters home page.. !!!

so either this 'Reuters' article is fake or they took it down ~!!

we need a MAJOR FACT CHECK PEOPLE !!! LINK your source(S)~!!


I am always floored when people in the day of the internet do not take even five minutes to fact check. This whole thread needs to be locked down as a lie/hoax.


Agreed, except maybe its better that people see the OP followed by pages and pages of debunkery of this nonsense.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 07:59 AM
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reply to post by Komodo
 


Good look'in out Komodo !

But something tells me gun control is in the works. And for anyone who thinks our govt. cant do this ? You better think again.

edit on 21-11-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
edit on 21-11-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 08:06 AM
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reply to post by ManFromEurope
 


Kummern Sie sich um Ihr eigenes Geschaft !!



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by auto73912621
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
 


I only hope you are right.


Veterans have been seeing the signs of this coming for years and preparing for it. When the time comes the oathbearers will be ready to raise up an army quickly. The oath they took was to protect the people from enemies foreign and domestic, they all know the Constitution hangs by a thread over a fire.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by scorpiosin
I don't see something like this getting through. That is a HUGE list.

Glad I sold all my stuff that was on that list a few months back


That UN treaty thing does make me very uneasy though..
edit on 21-11-2012 by scorpiosin because: vodka
I agree with you and I have done the same thing with the guns I had mostly because I needed the money to live but now that there is a list I may buy a gun not on the list.......................if there is one.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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Tothetenth, if you are going to shut down a perfectly legitimate thread for being "too similar to this one," then you might as well shut this thread down for being a HOAX and having no sources?



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Oh noies! He, the dark anti-god, will take away guns with telescopes, fast-reloading mechanisms and so on! How could he?!


Maybe because those are stupid things? Whatfor do you need a telescope on your self-defense-weapon? For something like "active" self-defense over a mile away?

Rrrrrright.

No. Demanding to have the rights to wear army-style-weapons is nothing anybody should be proud of.


Yeah, but you see, that is the difference between having a right and a privilege. When it comes to our right to bear arms, YOUR opinion is 100% irrelevant.

We don't have to explain to anyone why we need a "telescope on our self-defense-weapons." Its our prerogative.

Oh, and "the right to bear arms" isn't just for "self-defense."



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by chadderson
So let me get this straight. Americans have the right to bear arms, EXCEPT for the list? So when did the right to bear arms get diced up and quantified into specifically what is okay and not okay?



When we allowed unlawful laws like conceal carry permits, or regulations on firearms, even in some states you can't have a load gun on the night stand. The second amend. states we have a Right to BEAR ARMS and this right Shall NOT be infringed upon. The Supreme Court stated further that any law passed that infringes on this RIGHT is unlawful. So every existing gun law is unlawful, but no one says anything cause they make us safer.........Really? The Right to Bear Arms is not just a Right to buy and put in a safe! It Is the right to bear the firearm at all times. This right is not for hunting it is a right to defend ourselves from a tyrannical government. Then why can't we own the same arms as our government? Alot of you say "oh, that is silly" Really? HOW can we defend ourselves from a government with superior firepower? "But we would have all of these crazies running on the street shooting up everything." This is what they( TPTB) want you to believe cause that mindset is what gives them power. Crazies are crazy no matter what, but an armed citizen is the best defense against crazy!
Why does our government fear the citizens being armed?
This right gives us the right To carry anyway we see fit whether open or concealled with out permits.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by auto73912621
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
 


I only hope you are right.


Veterans have been seeing the signs of this coming for years and preparing for it. When the time comes the oathbearers will be ready to raise up an army quickly. The oath they took was to protect the people from enemies foreign and domestic, they all know the Constitution hangs by a thread over a fire.





We took an oath to defend the Constitution from both foriegn and domestic enemies and was never relieved of that oath. We are men of our word and will stand up for our rights even if we don't agree with your stance or opinion because it is your right to have that stance or opinion. Nobody wants armed conflict but Ican tell you this WE WILL NOT RUN FROM IT EITHER! Love the veterans for they are your last defnse of a Free Nation.









 
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