Originally posted by Hydroman
First of all, I have been accused of attacking christians because I ask questions about their beliefs. That is not my intention. The reason I speak
mostly about christian beliefs is because I was once christian and am more familiar with those beliefs. Now, can we discuss this without those
accusations this time?
Genesis 6: 5-7 in the KJV says "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his
heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the Lord said, I
will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it
repenteth me that I have made them."
After this, he sent the flood to destroy everything on earth, except for Noah and his family, and some animals.
Then, after the flood waters receded, Noah made a sacrifice to his god. Here is what happened according to Genesis 8: 20-21 in the KJV: "20 And Noah
builded an altar unto the Lord; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.
21 And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the
imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done."
Does anybody notice anything strange? Am I not reading this right?
Before this god sends the flood to wipe out everyone, he says that he is doing this because the imaginations of man's heart was evil continually.
But then after Noah makes a sacrifice, this god says he will not smite every living thing as he had done because the imagination of man's heart is
evil from his youth (which was the reason why he destroyed everything to begin with).
This god IS all knowing, isn't he? Did he not think about that to begin with? It doesn't make any sense.
Hydro, I think that the answer may be better explained if you read from the start of the narrative (from Genesis 6:1, after the genealogy statement
which usually breaks up the logical sections of Genesis). This section starts with talking about the "sons of God" (Angels) procreating with the
"daughters of men" and causing the "earth born" who were also the "ancient men of renown".
The passages you quoted mentioned that all men had become corrupted from birth and that Noah was "pure in all his days". Perhaps what is being
spoken of, here, is genetic, or epigenetic corruption.
In one generation we have gone from horse & cart to the internet, space travel and genetic manipulation. There were nine generations from Adam to Noah
and each generation lived far longer than we live now. Who knows how scientifically advanced they may have been in Noah's time.
When we genetically engineer organisms today, we normally use inactivated virii to insert gene sequences into the target genome. If they did the same
thing back then but for some reason the virus reactivated or for some other reason began to spread uncontrollably, it would begin rewriting the DNA of
ALL life it infected, from bacteria to humans.
Genetics itself is not always the end of the story because we can carry genes that are not activated. The new science of epigenetics looks at the
factors that turn genes off and on. These factors may be environmental or behavioral (for instance, exercise can make actual genetic changes that will
prevent type 2 diabetes by activating a gene that most people carry).
Imagine the effect of a gene that when switched on via some particular behavior, makes you a bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, sociopath and that
this condition is then heritable and will be passed to your offspring.
Faced with a genetic plague on that scale, the only sane solution (as humans) is some sort of genocide, which God took against all but selected
I agree it would be excessive to "end all life" just to punish a few wayward sinners. Think a bit deeper about what the whole narrative is saying.