Gaza Versus Israel (and the rest of the arab world) for dummies

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posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 05:11 AM
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Hi guys
I'd never heard of Dennis Prager before today but I'm sure our American cousins will have, no doubt some will love him and some will hate him. This thread is not about who likes whom,it is just a very simple explanation of the Arab Israeli conflict. This is not a thread to bash either the Palistinians or the Jews merely to inform the less enlghtened of the facts.

I've never tried to embed a video before so I hope this works.
If not the link is HERE
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posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 05:29 AM
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I have no side in this conflict, but that video is very one sided.



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 05:32 AM
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True it may come across as biased but it is still a statement of facts. Thanks for taking the time to watch it

Peace
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posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 05:35 AM
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Not facts. I'm sorry that you think that stating it as a fact makes it so.



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 05:37 AM
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The fact that he is professer of middle east study kinda swings it for me.



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 05:42 AM
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I'm happy that you can find peace in that.

Bliss can be a gift.



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by NiteNGale2
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I'm happy that you can find peace in that.

Bliss can be a gift.

What a beautiful way to put it.
May I quote you in life to some of my friends ?
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posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 06:01 AM
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If your friends need affirmation such as that, of course, yes. No need to ask.



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 06:03 AM
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Originally posted by cody599

The fact that he is professer of middle east study kinda swings it for me.


He is a professor but i was a citizen of an occupied country. I think that counts just a bit more.Today is remembrance day for my people and today we also pray for Palestine because we know how it feels. Books and facts are one thing but WAR - that's something else.



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by UsualSuspect
I have no side in this conflict, but that video is very one sided.
I agree. It is on the side of truth.



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by NiteNGale2
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Not facts. I'm sorry that you think that stating it as a fact makes it so.
Would you care to address and dispute the facts he presented?



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 06:46 AM
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Good vid thanks



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 06:59 AM
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A very simple propaganda piece aimed at an uninformed audience, which is an abundant one in the USA. Just like the conflict itself, its a time proven distortion of facts, points of view and history. It preys on the weak foundation of knowledge Americans have about the conflict to manipulate an unrealistic contemporary pt of view



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 07:00 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to watch.
I thought it was very lucid and well presented
Respect



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by GeneralMishka
A very simple propaganda piece aimed at an uninformed audience, which is an abundant one in the USA. Just like the conflict itself, its a time proven distortion of facts, points of view and history. It preys on the weak foundation of knowledge Americans have about the conflict to manipulate an unrealistic contemporary pt of view

But can you dispute the historical facts presented ?



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 07:02 AM
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"For more than 10 years he taught Torah at the American Jewish University in Los Angeles"...........

stores.dennisprager.com...


Hmmmm, I do believe that he may be a bit biased.



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by cody599

Originally posted by GeneralMishka
A very simple propaganda piece aimed at an uninformed audience, which is an abundant one in the USA. Just like the conflict itself, its a time proven distortion of facts, points of view and history. It preys on the weak foundation of knowledge Americans have about the conflict to manipulate an unrealistic contemporary pt of view

But can you dispute the historical facts presented ?



I dispute his intention on how his selected 'facts' are understood by his audience

Pushing that junk here demonstrates that you have desire for understanding the conflict, rather you desire just to manipulate a gullible audience to look the other way while war crimes are committed.



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 07:11 AM
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It preys on the weak foundation of knowledge Americans have about the conflict to manipulate an unrealistic contemporary pt of view


Unrealistic?

I would love to know what your "realistic" point of view is.

Why don't you enlighten us and tell us what this conflict is all about.

The truth is, Hamas started shooting rockets into Israel because Abbas went before the General Assembly to make the Palestinians an "observer" at the U.N. That vote comes due on November 29th. Once they become an observer, they are one step closer to creating a Palestinian state. The problem is, once a Palestinian state is created, they'll be forced to recognize Israel as a Jewish state and the extremists (such as Hamas and the leaders of Iran) won't have it. Not to mention the fact that the extremists are totally against any kinds of NEGOTIATIONS regarding the land. They believe that land should be taken by resistance and not negotiations.

The real conflict is between the moderate and extremist Muslims, just like it's always been, unfortunately, Israel is caught up in the middle of it.

Do some research.

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posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by itsallmaya
"For more than 10 years he taught Torah at the American Jewish University in Los Angeles"...........

stores.dennisprager.com...


Hmmmm, I do believe that he may be a bit biased.


He also flies an Israeli flag on his house, that however doesn't change the historical facts, I lived in Israel for 10 years as a non jew and served in the IDF. Rest assured if the arab world layed down their weapons the average Isreali would not see any reason to start a war. All they want, the same as the average Palistinian is to work to provide for their kids and live in peace



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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Yeah, we can all post videos that seem to support one side. Facts are very skewed and MANY omitted out in your video.
You may feel the same about some of these:

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Or perhaps in the wise and trusted words of Noam Chomsky and Victor Kattan:
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