Wal-Mart files U.S. labor charge against Union

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posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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reply to post by Sissel
 


You live in capitalism, assimilate or do what i do.

buy from local and big wigs




posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by Jordan River
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do you think that is all they talked about? probably the plot to destroy unions... make sense



That's possible. I wasn't there so I can't say.

We're talking about a company that had a net worth of BILLIONS of dollars over 30 years ago. They are now King of the Global Hill.. there isn't a union on the planet that can do more than cause a mild and temporary irritation to them.

MalWart is so big that the CEO could be outed for killing and raping and entire village of children in South Africa and the stock would probably RISE...

Like I said. Beast.

I hope this causes them a huge PITA but I doubt it will
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posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by Jordan River
reply to post by Sissel
 


You live in capitalism, assimilate or do what i do.

buy from local and big wigs


LOL, well, if it isn't a song bird changing it's tune half way through a song.

Troll much?



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 11:53 PM
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I hope WalMart dies. I know it won't though, and I'm the problem. Damn the convenience and low prices. I sure won't be there on black Friday though. I'm not shopping anywhere that is staying open on Thanksgiving.



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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Lets hope Walmart closes its doors too. Getting rid of Walmart and Hostess would be good for America!



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 12:08 AM
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I know our wal mart did NOT let you get into a Union, if you even said the word you were fired...on the spot. So IDK how anyone can be in a Union and still working there?
Anyway it is like the one poster said a small irritation, because obviously they will not honor any kind of input from an employee much less a union, this is why they have such high worker turnover, everybody gets fed up with their S#. But there's always plenty of lemmings to replace them, and school kids, just enough to keep their little greedy $@&%^* open. Unfortunately.
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posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 12:12 AM
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Yet, people still line up for Wal-mart jobs, and customers line up at the doors. I understand not liking the company, but enough people seem to like it to keep them going. Is it, perhaps, a necessary evil? Does the currrent economy require a Wal-mart?



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 12:13 AM
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reply to post by ripcontrol
 


Agree.

Not a peep out of this Administration either.




posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 12:28 AM
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Why bother unionizing ?

All you'll do is slowly kill the beast and ultimately put good paying jobs down the toilet (what is otherwise right now crappy wages).

Why would you allow these poor unemployed folks of the country to acclimatize to good paying jobs only to slowly lose them down the road ? WallyWorld would no longer be able to offer such low low prices with such high high unionized wages/benefits/pensions, thus killing the evil beast anyways because they would no longer be able to compete and meet customer demands.

So why not skip past all the rhetoric and go straight for the jugular now while the going is hot ? It would be the more humanitarian thing to do, no ?

Everybody walk off their jobs, everybody stop shopping there, and shut em down.

All these greedy capitalist pigs are doing is making our lives miserable anyways. I say shoot the beast now !



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 08:20 AM
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I like where I am at right now, the nearest wal mart is not in walking distance (surprisingly) and I have no car and I am making out just fine without it...I look at it like a kind of addiction, they may have low prices, but really you CAN find smaller businesses that have reasonable prices, I have, So I think this illusion, plus the addiction to shopping coupled with un-researched avenues, equals "Let's go get it at Wal-Mart". BTW here in my neck of the woods I would never get Meat at wal-mart, it's very high priced (and it sucks) and even Sweet Bay is Cheaper for meats here (and they're one of the higher priced places).



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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All Union bosses care about are the union dues that line their pockets and the politicians that are in their pocket

All corporate bosses care about are the profits made on the backs of their underpaid workers, and the politicians that are in their pocket

both sides are corrupt and could care less about the most important people involved... the workers.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by charles1952
Yet, people still line up for Wal-mart jobs, and customers line up at the doors. I understand not liking the company, but enough people seem to like it to keep them going. Is it, perhaps, a necessary evil? Does the currrent economy require a Wal-mart?


It's not that people like walmart in many towns it's the only place left. Wal mart has earned the name small town killer.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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I'm a big union supporter but that was a fantastic analogy. Star for you!




posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by Jordan River
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Excuse me there sir, i believe you just vomited some capitalism gibberish on the floor. I'll clean that up with my american flag



Please be careful in using that flag and just to eradicate the last sentence, up until that point he seemed to have a "fair and balanced" description of WalMart's sphere of influence.

Excess capitalism, excess socialism, excess patriotism, excess chauvinism, excess humanism, excess racism - it's not the ideology that's at issue it's the EXCESS!

Same applies to business, labor, finance and regulator.

ganjoa



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 04:18 PM
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The people who are bashing Union's here must not be blue collar, are miss informed or worried about their million dollar bonuses.

Stop drinking the corporations koolaid as they lead the witch hunt.

America herself is a Union, Labor Unions provide workers with rights, fair pay and benefits ... who in their right mind would be against collective bargaining giving workers representation and protection from an employer?

Notice as Union's are destroyed the middle class follows, coincidence?
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posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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Yea, poor Walmart ... The CEO makes more per hour than workers there make yearly ... you must be bathing in that kool aid man.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 10:25 PM
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Well Wal Mart will have to pay for employees health care thanks to Obamacare. And if they don't respect their employees to hell with them.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 11:46 PM
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Hostess mismanaged their company then asked the laborer to bail them out and tehy said no and now that company is closed.

You have this attitude that only the rich and big business can provide jobs or to stimulate the economy.

why did the employees have to prop up a failing business?? It dieing will create a void that someone can fill... meaning a new business, new opportunities. You do not like change.. you like certain families that own big businesses to give you nice secure jobs. It is too scary to have them fail and to have people take their place.

Your mentality is what makes our "economy" stagnant. No one wants to innovate because we want to keep things as they currently are because it makes you feel safe.

I do not feel sorry for walmart. I would rather see walmart go down than hostess to be honest.

walmart exploits cheap labor in foreign countries then exploits cheap labor here . then it spreads like a cancer and destroys small businesses in cities and turns small business owners into full time employees getting payed crap. And those young kids who used to work those low paying jobs during the summer or during college now cant' find many of those low paying jobs like the ones walmart offers because adults use them as their full time job.

BUT they are not full time because many of the retail store jobs will never allow you to work 40hrs because then they have to pay benefits. so you work 39hr O_o

You are backing walmart?? really ?? really??

walmart has been destroying small business long before obama came along.
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posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by jefwane
Wal-Mart vs Unions is like watching Stalin vs Hitler in a knife fight. You don't know who to root for, and the best possible outcome is that they kill each other.


You summarized that so perfect!
Anyhow... anyone doing a little research on this union, The United Food and Commercial Workers, will quickly learn what a money grabbing scam they are. They are known for being the union that has made unions look bad and turn people off from unions. NEVER fall for that alleged "union".

I speak from personal experience with them in north Florida nursing homes. They are money grabbing useless corporate ass-kissers that could not care less about human rights.



posted on Nov, 18 2012 @ 09:47 AM
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normally i am against unioin anything, the problem isnt that you need a union to protect workers, you need a government that doesnt encourage taking advantage of workers. we set all kinds of values through the fed, 8 dollars an hour is complete and total f ing rip off for anyone in the usa. why in 200 years dont we just have a REAL WATCH DOG in all the industries, year in and year out, 400000 million safetey regulators of some sort or fashion, but no one to regulate someone getting F'D over in a job? why cause that would make sense, or because governments are making a crap load off unions.

or someone to actually go around work place to work place and see what people do and EVALUATE what the job should really be paid and not what someone just feels you should make. someone standing on feet lifting heavy objects 40 hours a week making barely 20 grand versus someone putting something in a freakin file cabinet are hardly one in the same, yet i know some secretaries making 56k or more a year, heh

infact in some cases where things are regulated, youll have people making 25 bucs an hour because government says so, but in a job doing pretty much same work, weights, movements, only gets you 8 bucs an hour because government doesnt regulate it, WTF. and union dues is retarded, shouldnt have to pay to get paid, what kinda scam is that. how do we know they companies arent MAKING the problems, secretly supporting unions on the side, just so people will want them, and then the company can get some money back from their workers. fixing the problem they started, hrm sounds familiar, oh thats right, thats how we catch all these would be terrorist that we set up with money, plane, tickets, cars, bomb materials bam! we caught them!!(theres a conspiracy theory for ya)

its not the unions, its not even the companies, nor the workers, you cant just let people set up shop and not regulate anything. thats why there are huge descrepencies from person to person, because one guy gets a job thinking hes making mucho bucks, then find out cousins in same line of work making double, why just cause a company has decided that, had the government come in and said anyone who delievers pizza should be making 9,50 and hour, you check government website, and go, oh crap i could be making 1.50 more than i should be, go to employer and say hey this is what i should be making, boss says no, then you have an option of leaving/sueing for back pay because you know you are getting screwed where as the way it is now you could get screwed whole life an not even know till you get another job in same field, retire, or get fired and forced to work somewhere else.

walmart the worlds leading off sale retail, gets 4 billion dollars a year in tax cuts from the government, that means even if you dont shop there you already bought something and they pay the people #.
get rid of the damn unions and just regulate the entire economy from street sweeper to c.e.o. i see no reason why the government can regulate an industry because they do business with it/own it, but anything in private sector is just up for grabs.
edit on 18-11-2012 by ~widowmaker~ because: bunnies made me do it and i gotta go





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