Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
Perhaps if I hadn't put my heart and soul into Occupy as a way to bring change a year ago...to watch everything fall to pieces and fail...
Kali.. I don't know what happened to you. I honestly don't. When I first knew you last year you were energetic, passionate, positive and bright. Now
all that has turned dark and ugly. I can't recall the last message I've read of yours that was in any way light or uplifting? The costs of taking
the stands we all choose, I suppose. Still, it's been a sad thing to watch over the months.
The only fail, has been on your part. You're afraid and you're willing to accept authority where it has no place because of it. You
over-reacted with fear of blood baths that never happened... you were so sure a cop was going to kill someone during the evictions and larger
protests. You outright begged people to back-down. Winning back our Liberties will not come with pleading and begging on your knees to the very people
that took them away.
We need to clear up something here. I am an American. That doesn't mean I'm an American Citizen when it suits me...or when they piss me off, I can
root for the destruction of the very nation I love. It means I've a citizen through GOOD AND BAD. It means, when this nation is broken, I look to
help FIX it...not destroy it. I left Occupy because the cause of change became the cause of destruction and at this point, I'm as likely to fight
against them as I am to stand with them on ANYTHING. They've become as much my enemy as an American as they have any sort of solution to anything.
Now, I had advised caution...I have damn well asked people to be careful and consider what consequences might be. A Military Vet last year put it best
in a message here. IF a U.S. civilian unit encounters a U.S. or similarly trained Military unit, the result will be totall anhialation of the
civilians and WITHOUT EVEN QUESTIONING DETAILS. We have a lot of people here living in total fantasy land and Occupy is over-populated with dreamers
and delusional romantics. When you, Kali, know what it feels like to pick the damned brains of another human being off your shirt because a shotgun
blew off what used to be their head a few feet from you, THEN tell me about courage...and discretion as the better part of valor with judgement
applied. Until then......you know academic theory of what you're talking about....but at this rate, everyone will learn a bloody hard lesson soon.
I'll weep when the day comes too....because it never had to.
You are over-reacting now. You are not witnessing a brewing civil war or a brewing bloody exodus from the USA. You are witnessing a temper
tantrum. You are witnessing a five year old child tell it's parent's it's running away because it doesn't like their rules.
Perhaps I am overreacting. It's possible that the entire concept of law and order is basically negotiable now....so the fact this is on the HAIR LINE
of violating one of the most serious laws any nation has....may be totally irrelevant in the long term. Then again....the penalty for Sedition or
fomenting Insurrection is life or death, literally. I'll pass on THAT risk for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING GAINED. Thanks anyway.
Now, you want to play revolutionary and see what Che and Fidel did when they played this game. Thats fine... but don't even think about questioning
the patriotism, courage or motivation of other Americans who choose NOT to go down that insane path with you. Change MUST come but change through
DIRECT CONFRONTATION with an opponent who simply has no possibility of losing is called losing the war before the first battle is joined.
Sun Tzu wrote a little book on the topic...I've forced my way through it now twice. Ever read it? You may want to before you go back out on the
street to face the authorities. I can promise you many if not MOST of those commanding the forces that you'll be fighting HAVE read it and within
those pages are the very reasons why Occupy failed...and this will to.
Fight smart....NOT loud. Prison is FULL of loud people....History is written post-conflict by the smart ones. Everyone will have the chance to pick
those sides soon enough...Why are you and others so anxious for the bloodshed to start, anyway? It IS coming....be patient...you'll have enough to
last 2 lifetimes before this is over. We all will. There is no need to hurry the process along.