Originally posted by MrNECROS
Actually many of the websites for White Shrine Lodges state that you have to be an existing member of Order Eastern Star.
Also interestingly Ameranth has a single governing world body.
I found it's website to be highly self contradicory on most matters to the point where I couldn't really make any assumptions as to how, what or why
it is structured the way it is.
Unfortunatally there is very little else on the web about both groups.
Well, as long as you are pontificating on the subject, how about sharing some FACTS to support your assertions, like, for instance, what those self
contradictory matters are? Base assertions with no facts are worthless.
As for making assumptions, why not just ask, instead of making a fool out of yourself again, by guessing?
There is quite a bit more I'd like to discuss but I'm already getting the usual hot air about nothing responses and there aren't any
knowlegable people on this subject here - I've seen these links before on the web but there isn't a lot of cohesive material one way or the
Well, don't let that stop you (nevere has in the past) and share with the class what those issues are you'd like to discuss. You see, what I have
observed of you over time is that you come in, toss out a couple of verbal hand grenades, and then run away while more knowledgable folks explain and
answser your objections. Then you come back in, note that the answers are hot air, and that you would really like to discuss it, but... and then run
Do you seriously think you are convincing anyone of anything?
Stand and deliver, or be shown for the craven you really are. The purpose of this forum is to DENY IGNORANCE, not spread it. So either put up, or take
that bag of fertilzer somewhere else... like FW, which is the biggest compost heap on the internet.
Senrak - Strange you bring the subject of "rank" into the discussion, it's not been mentioned until you brought it up, the diagram displays
the relation of the degrees in reference to "The Compass" and "The Square" which is what I'm actually looking into.
good for you. While you are at it, you might consider that it is a visual representation, not a marker of rank, which is what YOU implied in your
first post regarding amaranth, which is why Senrak responde as he did... you might want to reread your own posts before you make yourself look even
Most Female Masonic bodies are highly constrained to "The Square" both of these appear to be on par with the higher degrees, 25th and 32nd to
Really??? Do tell... and by what process did you arrive at this conclusion, being, as it were, that we are masons and know what the organization is
about, and you are an outsider, with barely a clue about what the first three degrees are about. There is no correlation, since there is no rank
involved. Perhaps it would be easier for you to understand if you simply removed the degree numbers?
There is no higher "rank" than Third Degree Master Mason. These OTHER degrees are just that, additional information for the Master Mason, but not
HIGHER. My Senior Deacon is a 32 degree Scottish Rite, but he has no authority or power above that of any Master Mason in my lodge, or any lodge, for
The past master of one of my lodges is a 33 degree Scottish Rite, yet in his own words, sitting as master of the lodge was a higher honor (note the
word, HONOR) than was conferred on him when he received his 33rd degree. There are NO HIGHER OR LOWER RANKS. No matter how often you write it, it will
not change the facts.
These bodies also contain men, which does make for some rather sinister possibilities as to who "really" runs the organisation
Ha, you have GOT to be kidding... or just confused. You are obviously not in any of these organizations, and it is clear reading this that you are
totally clueless. Read what Senrak wrote.. he is giving you the straight skinny.
...but this is nothing more than conjecture given the complete lack of any tangible substance.
Now this is the FIRST thing you have written that makes sense... you have no tangible substance on which to write, and everything you have written
about Amaranth, White Shrine, Masonry, Rosicrucians, Templars etc are just the product of, lets all say it together folks, IGNORANCE.
What is your problem? I mean, aside from not taking your meds...