British Army Cadets thrown out of Liverpool Shopping Mall For Selling Poppies and Offending Muslims!

Originally posted by blupblup
So is there any truth to this incident?

Or is this just another excuse for the vile bigots and racists to congregate and spew forth their scum for us all?

My story is true 100% sir and i am not racist btw as for the op you can ask him
about his story as i don't know,I can only give my account of the truth of what i encountered
wearing a poppy of which i allways do in remembrance..

PEACE.

Originally posted by gort51
Yes the Muslims did fight in WW1.....but they were the "Baddies".....The British fought the Turks, who were aligned with the Prussians...no Idea why. Ask the Aussies about Gallipoli...which is in Turkey.

Why do you Poms insist on calling "Muslims" Asians!! They are NOT Asians, they are Pakis, Indians, Afghans, Middle East.....not Asians. Turkey considers itself part of Europe!! as does Israel...How I got no idea.

Asians are Slanty eyed, Asian/Oriental people....Not Injuns. India/Pakis are refered to as the Sub-Continent, if you must...and Arabia is Nowhere near Asia, but if you want to be smart because of the "Asian" Continent, then you better call the West Russians Asian too and all the Balkans, Baltic states, etc.

That's Like people trying to call Australia Asian.... Europe is Closer to Africa, than Australia is to Asia, so is Europe African?.....

. Loaded question...its heading that way it seems......

edit on 11-11-2012 by gort51 because: (no reason given)

Poe's law. I genuinely can't tell whether this is satire or not. Genuinely.

Also, geography fact. Asia is a continent. Most Muslims in Britain are from Pakistan. Pakistan and India are on the Asian continent. This is the way geography is taught in Britain and it's the way it's recognised by the United Nations.

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Hi Denver

I believe you without a doubt as i have seen this stuff myself
This is the first time in 15 years that i have not wore a poppy

Is it because im scared? bloomin right it is

Should i just ignore it all and wear my poppy with pride?
IMO yes i have a poorly daughter and i dont need my head kicked for wearing a label

I said i would leave this thread a few posts back..but to heck with it

A post said "I see with my own eyes"...well so do i

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Its also funny that you enter all of the "muslim" threads and start posting completely unrelated, Anti-muslim stories and anecdotes and crap.

It's funny that you appear in many threads that concern race, immigration and Islam.

Really funny that.

Originally posted by hotel1
I just don't get how Muslim's in Britain are offended by the sale of poppy's because after all Soldiers of that faith have served, and died in conflicts as part as Commonwealth forces. Are they not aware of the fact that the UK/Commonwealth armed forces that fought, and died during the Balkans conflict did so to try and protect Muslim people from the ethnic cleansing, and oppression that others sought to inflict on them.

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good jihad.

Originally posted by blupblup
So is there any truth to this incident?

Or is this just another excuse for the vile bigots and racists to congregate and spew forth their scum for us all?

Nothing to do with "Racists" or "vile bigots",everything to do with common sense,some cultures were just not meant to co exist.But if you wish to follow the politically correct path,don't throw up your hands when Sharia law becomes a fact of life in the future caliphate of Great Britain.

Originally posted by blupblup
reply to post by ollncasino

 

Its also funny that you enter all of the "muslim" threads and start posting completely unrelated, Anti-muslim stories and anecdotes and crap.

It's funny that you appear in many threads that concern race, immigration and Islam.

Really funny that.

edit on 11/11/12 by blupblup because: (no reason given)

You sir are getting personal now

I made a comment about the higher peeps on here and it was removed
Your comment is way off and to be honest...almost intimidating

I get updates every day from 'rantburg', the amount of killing that is going on in the 'middle east' is horrifying, also 'honour killings' schools being blown up, car bombs, I'm beginning to wonder why I read it. (atlas shrugs is no better)

Originally posted by denver22
My story is true 100% sir and i am not racist btw as for the op you can ask him
about his story as i don't know,I can only give my account of the truth of what i encountered
wearing a poppy of which i allways do in remembrance..

PEACE.

I'm not attacking you, nor did I read every post in the thread... I read a few though.
To get a "feel" for the thread.

"OMG Muslims taking over the Country"

People like Beezer spouting off about something he knows nothing about and saying "surrendering to the muslims...disgusting"

WTF?

Ollncasino who shows up in every Islamic or race related thread to spout his hatred.

The OP for posting this and referring to British people as invaders..

Plus many more I'm sure


It's the same pattern and same type of people on every single one of these threads.

People who try to actually discuss the story
People who come in and use it as a platform for their Islamaphobic crap to be spouted.
People who try to get a balance because they hate to see an entire group of people attacked and abused because of a tiny, nasty minority
People who try and dig deeper and get other sources and actually question Nationalistic sites and sources.
And people who harmlessly and innocently get caught up in all of this, not realising they're being used and played.



Same ****, different thread.

Originally posted by blupblup

It's funny that you appear in many threads that concern race, immigration and Islam.

Not threads about race and immigration.

Threads about Islam. I can tell you things about Islam that usually only Muslims know. For instance, Muhammad the founder of Islam

• Pronounced death for leaving Islam, Hadith Sahih Bukhari, Book 83 Volume 9, Number 17

• Told followers that Jihad was the second highest thing after believing in Allah, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 25

• Stated he would fight until everyone admitted their was only one god, Allah, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 24

• Burnt people for not praying Sahih Bukhari Book 1, Vol 11, Verse 626

• Forced non Muslims to be humbled, submit to Islam and pay jizyah tax.Koran Book 9 Verse 29

Am I anti-Islam?

Da*n tooting I am.

Originally posted by blupblup

Ollncasino who shows up in every Islamic or race related thread to spout his hatred.

So burning people for not praying, pronouncing death for leaving Islam, forcing people to submit to Islam, telling Muslims to engage in Jihad as a religious duty and stating that he would fight until everyone acknowledged there is only one God, Allah isn't hateful.

But telling people what Muhammad did and what he told Muslims to do is?

You are a seriously mixed up politically correct puppy.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Merriman Weir

You know what makes me angry? Nationalists. If it wasn't for nationalists, half of the wars we're remembering today wouldn't have happened.

Too true.

But we should forget all of the wars caused by religion at our peril.

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Can you name any big ones that Britain have been involved in over the last 200-300 years? I'd vouch nationalism and capitalist resource grabs outweigh any religious wars in the modern era.

Originally posted by hotel1
I just don't get how Muslim's in Britain are offended by the sale of poppy's because after all Soldiers of that faith have served, and died in conflicts as part as Commonwealth forces. Are they not aware of the fact that the UK/Commonwealth armed forces that fought, and died during the Balkans conflict did so to try and protect Muslim people from the ethnic cleansing, and oppression that others sought to inflict on them.

To be perfectly honest, no most of them are not aware.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by blupblup

It's funny that you appear in many threads that concern race, immigration and Islam.

Not threads about race and immigration.

Threads about Islam. I can tell you things about Islam that usually only Muslims know. For instance, the founder of Islam

Uh huh..... Because you telling me stuff that you learned from sites like thereligionofpeace.com and stormfront and the BNP website and god knows what else, is going to convince me that you're right and that Muslims are out to get me and ruin the world and change my life and introduce sharia law.


For every crazy, bigoted Muslim group there is out there...there is an equally crazy, bigoted group of Anders Breiviks out there.

Extremism is ANY from is wrong.... be it Muslim extremists, Christian extremists, Jewish Extremists.... Political Extremists...

ANY of them


To harp on about one group so much, so vehemently and so persistently.... tells me that you have a real Issue with Muslims.

I couldn't care less... I'm not religious, dislike most religions and have no interest in it.

But much of the "Islamphobia" we see in the world... also masks some very clearly racist views.


But whatever.

You carry on.


Keep posting Daily Mail stories about how evil Muslims are..... must be fun, a real noble cause

Originally posted by blupblup

People who come in and use it as a platform for their Islamaphobic crap to be spouted.

Islamaphobia. Is that a real word?

We don't have the words Christaphobia, Hinduphobia or Buddahphobia in the English language.

I think I would be correct in saying that Islamaphobia is just a silly word made up by silly politically correct people.

Originally posted by gort51
Yes the Muslims did fight in WW1.....but they were the "Baddies".....The British fought the Turks, who were aligned with the Prussians...no Idea why. Ask the Aussies about Gallipoli...which is in Turkey.

Its remembrance day bud...no mention of the close to half a million muslims who served in the British Indian Army during 1914 - 18 war? What about those who served as part of the French forces...some of their names can be seen on the Menin Gate, tho I understand you may need to ask where and what the gate represents.

@Denver: I was wearing a poppy in uncle Kens at Mayo Avenue t'other day...I had no probs and neither did the other ppl who were also wearing poppies???

Back to the OP, this story has been doing the rounds for a week now and no one can back it up. The far right 'patriot group' pushing this have a bit of a history of telling porky pies. Question for me is why did the OP choose to post this unsubstaniated jackanory on this day....

In memory of my Grandfather who was one of over 4,000 British soldiers and civilians who died on board the RMS Lancastria in June 1940, and also to my late father who served 22years in the British Army.

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Actually it is....

Here ya go

dictionary.reference.com...

www.thefreedictionary.com...


Cheers


I know all your reading time is allocated and dedicated to a higher cause, but take some time and read those links.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by blupblup

People who come in and use it as a platform for their Islamaphobic crap to be spouted.

Islamaphobia. Is that a real word?

We don't have the words Christaphobia, Hinduphobia or Buddahphobia in the English language.

I think I would be correct in saying that Islamaphobia is just a silly word made up by silly politically correct people.

edit on 11-11-2012 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

Of course it's a real word. You might be interested in this: Christaphobia, first paragraph. It's a English word used and recognised by the Council of European Episcopal Conferences.

Originally posted by blupblup

Uh huh..... Because you telling me stuff that you learned from sites like thereligionofpeace.com and stormfront and the BNP website and god knows what else, is going to convince me that you're right and that Muslims are out to get me and ruin the world and change my life and introduce sharia law.

Every article I cited came from the established British press.

Every thing I attributed to Muhammad came from the Koran and Hadith.

• Pronounced death for leaving Islam, Hadith Sahih Bukhari, Book 83 Volume 9, Number 17

• Told followers that Jihad was the second highest thing after believing in Allah, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 25

• Stated he would fight until everyone admitted their was only one god, Allah, Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, number 24

• Burnt people for not praying Sahih Bukhari Book 1, Vol 11, Verse 626

• Forced non Muslims to be humbled, submit to Islam and pay jizyah tax.Koran Book 9 Verse 29

See?

The Koran and Hadith.

You are so busy calling people vile names that you can't even read properly.

The Koran and Hadith. Can you see that now?

The Koran and Hadith are certainly not the thereligionofpeace.com,stormfront or even the BNP.

By the way, did you know that Muhammad was a very successful general who spread Islam by the sword? I suspect that you don't.

In the space of a single decade Muhammad

• Fought 8 major battles,
• Led 18 raids,
• Planned another 38 military operations where others were in command but operating under his orders and strategic direction.

HistoryNet

HistoryNet?

That isn't the thereligionofpeace.com or stormfront or even the BNP either.

Area conquered by Muhammad (Arabian Peninsula)

Originally posted by joewalker

@Denver: I was wearing a poppy in uncle Kens at Mayo Avenue t'other day...I had no probs and neither did the other ppl who were also wearing poppies???

Glad to hear it, but i wasn't so lucky also.. im not a racist myself sir/mam.
I am from down south of england and this was many a year ago i went up there a true story..

Just sharing my experiance joey...

The police said i was at fault for entering into a no go zone i told him i was not from
here to which the seargent said well nothing and shrugged his shoulders..

No racial intent with my story

peace..

Originally posted by blupblup
For every crazy, bigoted Muslim group there is out there...there is an equally crazy, bigoted group of Anders Breiviks out there.

Perhaps you are correct, yet the evidence seems to suggest otherwise.



For a religion of peace, Islam does seem to do a lot of killing.