British Army Cadets thrown out of Liverpool Shopping Mall For Selling Poppies and Offending Muslims!

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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:31 AM
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Hey, you'll absolutely love this one mate...


A group of young Muslims have taken their campaign to sell poppies nationwide to spread their message of "peace and unity between all nations, peoples and religions."

Members of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Youth Association (AMYA) are hoping raise over £40,000 for the Poppy Appeal after their success selling poppies at London's Underground and train stations over the past two years.






posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by Sissel

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Sissel

Either you think these kind of crimes can only be committed by middle easterners, or you pulled it up in an attempt to make a mountain out of a mole hill, when the mole hill doesn't exist in any way shape or form in your article.


Three Britons held over soldier killing in Cyprus

The soldier was knifed by British Muslims.

Bri tish Muslims murder British soldier vacationing in Cyprus

There are even pictures of them here for you!!






Excuse me, what do all these links have to do with the topic of the thread?.. You're on a roll, no aren't ya?




Poppies, British soldiers. British 'Asians'. It isn't hard to see a link at all...

...but thank you for repeating my point for me.

See if you can spot the link with this one.

UK: Five Muslim boys and white girl, all 12, excluded over Facebook death threats to classmate who supported British troops



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Chadwickus

What Muslim extremist?

I have no idea what you are going on about mate.


I'm not your mate.


Originally posted by davesmart

i pretended i was a friend so hed open up and some of the vile stuff he would say were unrepeatable
especially his views on Jews



Originally posted by Chadwickus

That's pretty low.

Your own signature sums you up nicely...




Ah, well it's clear what your opinions on Asians and Muslims are, so that makes you an extremist too, right?

Read the shirts on the pic I posted above and try to grow up a bit eh?



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
Hey, you'll absolutely love this one mate...


A group of young Muslims have taken their campaign to sell poppies nationwide to spread their message of "peace and unity between all nations, peoples and religions."

Members of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Youth Association (AMYA) are hoping raise over £40,000 for the Poppy Appeal after their success selling poppies at London's Underground and train stations over the past two years.



They seem like decent chaps.

Around about 600 British Muslims serve in the UK armed forces, while MI5 estimate that around 4,000 have been trained by the Taliban.

MI5 has estimated that up to 4,000 British Muslims had travelled to Pakistan and, before the fall of the Taliban, to Afghanistan for military training.

I find many Muslims to be decent people.

Not the extremists who spit and assault poppy sellers, knife British soldiers and fight for the Taliban.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino



Poppies, British soldiers. British 'Asians'. It isn't hard to see a link at all...

...but thank you for repeating my point for me.

See if you can spot the link with this one.

UK: Five Muslim boys and white girl, all 12, excluded over Facebook death threats to classmate who supported British troops


You know, all those links you supply seem to be very important to you, so, why don't you make another thread about the violence of Middle easterners on your own, because you are hijacking this thread, here, which is about a specific issue, and instance.

No never mind that there are also all kinds of links that would prove there is a lot of violence against the middle easterners there, too.


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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:38 AM
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I'm not surprised to see you in this thread. An ex-pat throwing mud from distant shores eh?


There was a security guard to protect the little veteran why?


It's a city Ol. People rob charity boxes all the time and some wouldn't honestly care about the cause. I don't know the last time you managed a visit to England, but in pubs and shops, the charity boxes are chained to the counters. Charity workers stand in pairs for safety. I've never seen a Muslim in a pub so maybe (in your world) the boxes are chained up 'just in case' those brown folk come-a-calling?



Poppy sellers are being attacked and abused, as much as you would prefer to think otherwise. But hey, let's not worry about it and pretend it isn't happening. Right?


Yawn. You're a broken record - always slagging off the UK from foreign shores - you recently wrote that you moved out of the UK. I was actually in Liverpool twice this week and reckon that has more value in terms of experience than some bloke who doesn't even live here. Family and friends live in Liverpool. But hey, lets not worry about it and pretend you know more about it than someone who lives here.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus

Ah, well it's clear what your opinions on Asians and Muslims are, so that makes you an extremist too, right?

Read the shirts on the pic I posted above and try to grow up a bit eh?


I know many Muslims. On an individual basis, I like many of them and find them to be decent people.

I'm not so sure I would be so keen on them as a group however if they started making the rules where I live.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:44 AM
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:48 AM
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus

Ah, well it's clear what your opinions on Asians and Muslims are, so that makes you an extremist too, right?



Asians you say?

It's time to stop using the word 'Asians'

In the wake of the Rochdale grooming convictions, it's time to stop lumping Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus together as 'Asians', argues Hardeep Singh.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by chemistry
This story really, really makes me angry:





Yesterday (7/11/2012) a delegation of Nationalists descended on Liverpool's St. John's Market along with the Liverpool Echo Building, BBC Merseyside and Joe Anderson's Municipal Buildings in protest of an "alleged" incident on Saturday 3rd November 2012 where four 14-15 year old cadets were abused and assaulted by several "Middle Eastern" store holders and security guards from within St Johns Shopping Centre for being in uniform and selling Poppies on behalf of the RBL and the Poppy Appeal.


You know what makes me angry? Nationalists. If it wasn't for nationalists, half of the wars we're remembering today wouldn't have happened.
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by Merriman Weir

You know what makes me angry? Nationalists. If it wasn't for nationalists, half of the wars we're remembering today wouldn't have happened.


Too true.

But we should forget all of the wars caused by religion at our peril.



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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 07:10 AM
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Originally posted by n00bUK
Morrisons in Bradford do not stock poppies neither. I'v seen this with my own eyes and I asked why they don't stock them they said they haven't received any from head office, yet when I went back this morning, 4 days later they still don't have them. This genuinely angers me how people become so weak over a minority, they create a bigger racial divide acting this way


I been up there and had to deal with over a hundred for walking in a no go zone..
the cry was what are you doing in my country and got chased .

I would of stood but they were armed to the teeth with every weapon possible.
But it wasn't about the violence it was about i was in their country in their eyes..

It was like a scene out of the film the warriors..
When i found the old bill station the police told me i shouldn't have walked into thier aea
and that it was my own fault...

I have no problem with other races but maybe i shouldn't of worn my poppy
what do you think?.

Was i wrong for walking accidently into a ethnic zone i had no idea of?..
All for wearing a poppy..
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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Regardless of the verification of these incidents involving poppy sellers,we have a culture that is totally alien to the vast majority of us in our midst.We are so diametrically opposed that it baffles me how any government could endorse an immigration policy that allows such a culture entry to our Country.

We really can't afford to take a"hearts and flowers"approach to the problem,in this instance it really is them and us,and for us to flourish we need to nip this in the bud now,never mind what will happen 20 years down the line,it's the next 2 or 3 years that will see Enoch Powell's "Rivers of Blood" speech seem like a mild reaction to this Country's immigration policy.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 07:23 AM
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And to think that rivers of blood was laughed at
Not to mention churchill's views on muslims



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 07:25 AM
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Remembrance Day and everything associated with it including Poppy's isn't about the rights and wrongs of any war, it's about the remembering and respecting the people who fought in those wars, far too many of whom paid the ultimate sacrifice.

People from all sides should take a step back and reflect upon that instead of using Remembrance Day as an opportunity for political slaganeering and mudslinging.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 07:26 AM
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So is there any truth to this incident?

Or is this just another excuse for the vile bigots and racists to congregate and spew forth their scum for us all?



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 07:30 AM
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Was at a service this morning in the town I grew up in and home to the British Legion organisation that my grandfather was actively part of. Unlike the town I live in now, there's a very, very small Asian population. Yet there was a massive police presence complete with mobile camera unit. No threat from disgruntled Muslims as there's no Muslims to be disgruntled. Compare this to the town I live in which has predominantly Muslim areas, at their service, there was next to no police and the regional cop shop is actually based there.

Regarding chaperones and security for poppy sellers, over the last few years there's been an increase in charity-related thefts. Scrotes stealing charity collection tins from shop counters seem to be on the rise, I know from my better-half (ex manager of charity shop and still in touch with other managers) that shoplifting from charity shops is also on the rise. I know that low level street crime (muggings &c) is also on the rise through my friends who work in local courts who see the trials and general facts and figures before they're submitted for 'manipulation' by the government.

To put another perspective to this, here's a Daily Mail story (and you can't get more xenophobic than the Mail) about an incident last year. Young white female cadet (not in uniform) was spat on and had some poppies stolen by some 11 and 12 year old Muslim boys. However, farther down the story, they report that some female Muslim cadets also got grief when collecting during another incident..

Daily Mail story

So what do we learn from this? Muslims on both side of the fence. Some support the role of the British armed forces to the extent they are cadets and actively help the remembrance of the sacrifice of fallen soldiers. Whereas others are vehemently against the British armed forces and, typically, British foreign policies.

Conclusion: logic and comprehension shows it's not a 'Muslim' issue by any means. The problem is a dickhead subgroup within the general Muslim population.

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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by blupblup
Or is this just another excuse for the vile bigots and racists to congregate and spew forth their scum for us all?



It is somewhat amusing and predicable the way you pop up on these threads, telling people what they are allowed to talk about and throwing about vile insults at anyone who expresses an opinion that falls outwith what you decide is politically correct.

You have no right to call people vile bigots and racists and you have no right to decide what people are allowed to talk about.






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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 07:38 AM
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