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Originally posted by Sissel
Originally posted by Destinyone
Interesting and timely thread for my question. This year puts me in the official SS claim age, for early retirement, that is.
I've been receiving notices from SS, practically begging me to file for early retirement, which I won't, as it would be much less than if I wait for full retirement age. Why should I file for early retirement, and lose all those benefits I've spent my whole life paying into. I'm working for myself now, and don't need to file, yet the letters extolling the benefits of early retirement keep coming. Is anyone else getting pressured to take the ding with early retirement? Why would SS even be pushing this concept.
Des
Hmmmm, in the link I provided it says the average age for retirement is going to be around 66. I knew my Dad took early retirement in the late 80's at 62, and that he later regretted it, even though an early retirement was best for him at the time due to health issues.
Any way you can scan your letter and post it here without your personal information?
Originally posted by newcovenant
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Valhall
I have always considered social security just another way for the government to determine where you live, what you eat, drink, buy, by how much they "allot" back to you.
I'd be giddy if they stopped taking social security!edit on 4-11-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)
And many other people feel the same way as you do Beez.
In fact we have tried that way in the past but it resulted in a little problem.
At the end of a generation or two you have this seemingly never ending supply of old people cluttering up the streets and dying in the gutters because they squandered everything and now they have no place to go and certainly nobody wants them.
This is a way to assure a minimum of basic care that they pay for themselves during their working lives.
Other wise you end up with an abundance of elderly starving, destitute and dying... littering the open areas where the children play. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. SS turns out to be practical, cost effective and humane.
edit on 4-11-2012 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jimmiec
I'm 55 and was always told i would never see it. As it stands it can not be sustained. SS needs an overhaul to keep it going. Personally i will never file for SS. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination but i just figure it took care of my grandparents and parents so thats where the money they took out of my checks went.
Originally posted by Destinyone
I've been receiving notices from SS, practically begging me to file for early retirement, which I won't, as it would be much less than if I wait for full retirement age. Why should I file for early retirement, and lose all those benefits I've spent my whole life paying into. I'm working for myself now, and don't need to file, yet the letters extolling the benefits of early retirement keep coming. Is anyone else getting pressured to take the ding with early retirement? Why would SS even be pushing this concept.
Des
Originally posted by Sissel
Originally posted by Destinyone
I've been receiving notices from SS, practically begging me to file for early retirement, which I won't, as it would be much less than if I wait for full retirement age. Why should I file for early retirement, and lose all those benefits I've spent my whole life paying into. I'm working for myself now, and don't need to file, yet the letters extolling the benefits of early retirement keep coming. Is anyone else getting pressured to take the ding with early retirement? Why would SS even be pushing this concept.
Des
Hey, don't blame you one bit. Remember when they used to send out letters projecting what your income would be from SS? I got displaced from Katrina, and had to send a letter to the IRS saying I was displaced from Katrina and didn't have a permanent address for a while....in 2005 I had also received a letter stating what my expected draw was.....from SS.
Needless to say, after a few years I sent a letter to both, the IRS, and SS. Was told my refund from the IRS was no longer valid, because I didn't have a valid address, and that the letters projecting SS was discontinued.....
Dammit, the IRS owes me over $500.00 I will never see!
Originally posted by TruthSeekerMike
What level of moron must anyone be to believe ANYTHING any of the candidates say? Has a man after 54 years not noticed that nothing ever changes when the president does? People are dolts.
Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by jimmiec
I say let me decide where my money goes, and how it should be invested. WHY should the Government keep its hand in my pocket? Especially all my life?
Originally posted by The Old American
Originally posted by newcovenant
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Valhall
I have always considered social security just another way for the government to determine where you live, what you eat, drink, buy, by how much they "allot" back to you.
I'd be giddy if they stopped taking social security!edit on 4-11-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)
And many other people feel the same way as you do Beez.
In fact we have tried that way in the past but it resulted in a little problem.
At the end of a generation or two you have this seemingly never ending supply of old people cluttering up the streets and dying in the gutters because they squandered everything and now they have no place to go and certainly nobody wants them.
This is a way to assure a minimum of basic care that they pay for themselves during their working lives.
Other wise you end up with an abundance of elderly starving, destitute and dying... littering the open areas where the children play. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. SS turns out to be practical, cost effective and humane.
edit on 4-11-2012 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)
Here's an idea: don't squander it. Take that 6% that the government garnishes from your wages and save it, invest it, hell, put it in a mason jar and bury it under the outhouse. It should be yours to save or even squander if you wish to.
/TOA
Originally posted by newcovenant
Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by jimmiec
I say let me decide where my money goes, and how it should be invested. WHY should the Government keep its hand in my pocket? Especially all my life?
So we are not stuck with your sorry arse when you blow it all drinking and gambling.
..
Originally posted by newcovenant
The SS letters didn't say ever what your income would be.
They don't speculate and neither does the IRS. You probably got a mailing from some borrowing scam.
They tell you what your income is and what you have saved toward retirement in the SS program.
$500? You'll get that back your first month on social security. Others are paying for you. I don't see what is your complaint?
Originally posted by newcovenant
Originally posted by The Old American
Originally posted by newcovenant
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Valhall
I have always considered social security just another way for the government to determine where you live, what you eat, drink, buy, by how much they "allot" back to you.
I'd be giddy if they stopped taking social security!edit on 4-11-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)
And many other people feel the same way as you do Beez.
In fact we have tried that way in the past but it resulted in a little problem.
At the end of a generation or two you have this seemingly never ending supply of old people cluttering up the streets and dying in the gutters because they squandered everything and now they have no place to go and certainly nobody wants them.
This is a way to assure a minimum of basic care that they pay for themselves during their working lives.
Other wise you end up with an abundance of elderly starving, destitute and dying... littering the open areas where the children play. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. SS turns out to be practical, cost effective and humane.
edit on 4-11-2012 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)
Here's an idea: don't squander it. Take that 6% that the government garnishes from your wages and save it, invest it, hell, put it in a mason jar and bury it under the outhouse. It should be yours to save or even squander if you wish to.
/TOA
We have tried this.
It doesn't work.
Next.
Originally posted by The Old American
Originally posted by newcovenant
Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by jimmiec
I say let me decide where my money goes, and how it should be invested. WHY should the Government keep its hand in my pocket? Especially all my life?
So we are not stuck with your sorry arse when you blow it all drinking and gambling.
Which is his choice. Stop trying to force your morals or responsibility on others. That's how we got into this Social Security mess.
/TOA
Originally posted by newcovenant
Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by jimmiec
I say let me decide where my money goes, and how it should be invested. WHY should the Government keep its hand in my pocket? Especially all my life?
So we are not stuck with your sorry arse when you blow it all drinking and gambling.