What Are The Chances?!? Hurricane 'Sandy' Drill From 1997

Originally posted by Daughter2

Originally posted by MrSpad
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They have six lists of 21 names they rotate through. One a year. Half are male, half are female. Before th 50s they were all feamale. The names are always the same and only retired if a store causes substantial damage. A total of 76 have been retired. So simple math tells us that only 202 names have been used ever. So the odds are not bad at all.

So let's see 1 out of 202 - the odds are 99.5% of not being named Sandy and .5% being named Sandy. Combine this with the drill on 9/11 of a plane hitting the world trade center, the weather channel's special on a hurricane Katrina, and many other "drills" that happened right before a disasters. There was a whole tread on drills that turned out to be true.

What's so hard to believe that the military or other people in power, have ways to predict/cause disasters? You think they would share it? Is it more logical to believe all these drills were just coincidences or more logical to believe they have secret tech they won't share?

Because I spent a good part of my like in the military and other government agencies and the weather cause trouble for us all the time. I think if we might have used to help us do certain things that we did not because of weather instead of using it to cause a storm that happens to have the same name as one of thousands of hurricane drills from 15 years ago. Considering how many scenerios they drill every single year each with a hurrricane name I would say it would expected that over the course of a decade one might match up. And the the things about drills is you drill for things you expect to happen. That is the entire point of them.

There has been an over simplification of determining the odds of the name being the same. I won't attempt to calculate the odds but I will bring up some significant points with regard to the probability.

First there are two points of coincidence ...

1. The storm name in the drill is the same as this current hurricane.
2. The storm in the drill follows a very similar path to the current hurricane.

So first of all the naming of storms begins in alphabetical order. This season's names are ...

Alberto
Beryl
Chris
Debby
Ernesto
Florence
Gordon
Helene
Isaac
Joyce
Kirk
Leslie
Michael
Nadine
Oscar
Patty
Rafael
Sandy
Tony
Valerie
William

17 named storms had to happen before the name Sandy could be used. This storm wouldn't have been named Sandy if there were any less or more than 17 storms already named. This storm could have been Tony or Rafael if just one more or less storm formed.

This is something to consider. Not only is this storm on the same path as the one in the drill but it happened to fall in just the right count of the hurricanes for the season to be named Sandy.

So there is more to the odds than simply drawing from a pool of names.

I am not inferring that there is anything nefarious afoot I am simply trying to shed more light onto what the odds of the name Sandy being used for both the drill and this current hurricane.

This thread has been picked up by the mainstream media:

observer.com...

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Now THAT is weird.

Just about to hit the sack and then This.

Oh, FUKUSHIMA!
Now I can't sleep.
I'll probably just pass out like 'lately' from exhaustion.

It was a drill based on a REAL Hurricane that happened. If you dig deeper, you will probably find drills that center around a hurricane, Cat 2 or 3, that hits squarely into NYC causing a huge catastrophe and flooding out most of lower Manhattan. It wouldn't be a conspiracy, cause it has happened before- and the way that area is more populated today than it was in 1938- that is why you run the drills and sims to get an idea of what would happen.

Besides, the drill was in from 1997. That's a pretty long time to from drill to event don't you think?

I am amazed at how people are falling for the media hype surrounding this storm. Well guess what people? It is a Cat 1 Hurricane. East Coast Hurricanes are not uncommon. They have happened before and they will happen again. Know what else? The North Atlantic Hurricane Season runs from June 1 to November 30. So an October hurricane is not unheard of.

I am not sure if people around here and falling for the Media Hype or the Alec Jones hype. Even AJ has jumped on this one, and I had to laugh at him. "With the cold front coming it could produce tornadoes!" yet what AJ doesn't tell you is Tornadoes are common in ANY hurricane, tornadoes can happen at any time of the year and are not exclusive to the spring time, and yes.. even the East Coast has had tornadoes before.

I'm sorry people... this is just another storm. No Haarp, no massive conspiracy, it's just another storm. You will see high winds and massive amounts of rainfall. You will see flooding in many areas, much like you did during Hurricane Irene. You will probably see power outages- like you do in any hurricane in any part of this Country. It's all par for the course.

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Just to confirm.. that Harrp picture WAS added afterwards...



Cheers.

I can't believe I'm the first one posting this; Major Ed Dames remote viewed (along with a crew of other remote viewers) the East Coast of the U.S. for spring 2013 and saw the Supreme Court Building in Washington in ruins and with obvious high water and algae marks. While he's been wrong plenty, this particular prediction had him plenty freaked out and he's stood by it.

reply to post by Signals


That is a bit spooky to say the least. Yet, I am sure that drills for just about anything are carried out all the time. With that said, having a drill for a major storm named after the actual storm hitting the eastern part of the US right now a good enough reason to take a closer look at things. There is another decent thread up currently about HARP being involved in the current storm hitting the eastern part of the US. Is HAARP feeding SANDY? (The Conspiracy Side)

The site you are getting this information from seem to have no reason to make something to get attention. The purpose of their site is not get a bunch of money from adverts. And besides, they are a local group you seem to be involved in doing good things for the local community. So, I will have faith that the information they are providing about this drill is true; until I have evidence to believe otherwise.

Now, is this drill connected to the current actual storm going down right now?
Well, I looked up how hurricanes get their names and I found this
How Hurricanes get their names

Just FYI.
The little "story" of so and so's moms daughters husbands former roommate who works at Ft Mac.
Ft. Mac closed in September of 2011.
All units were moved and reasigned to new bases.

I would not put much stock in 4th and 5th hand accounts. If a basic detail such as what base the person is stationed is not correct then you cant count on the main jist of the info to be correct either. The devil is in the details.

reply to post by SherlockH


Excellent post, my mind is blown even more.

Starred and FLAGGED!!! Nobody is crying in outrage or FEAR?!?!?!?! I knew nothing of the drill... AND STILL i came to this conclusion. This conclusion came to me as hard as any other epiphany I have had in my life.

-The New Yorkers there are locked in. They CANNOT leave and centers with 'help' are there and already setting up
-There talking about setting up "centers" in NYC.
-On the news they justified windows being blown out.
-And when have you EVER known them shutting down such an large region with road blocks to Pennsylvania!!!!! -------- Recently the cable just went off for a moment in the 'deciding state', could that be to final test the national emergency system that was introduced last year or so? Listen how the media is advising the citizens to "embrace" their 'help' that is going 'provided' to them. How the 'elderly' need THIS protection! THEY SHUT DOWN NYSE... come on!!!!! boots could be deployed to ALL major us cities within hours...

Light bulb turn'd da eff on!!!

Remember all of the forums that got no love and spoke of an event???

Whats going to happen to us? Is it to late to leave?

The economy crashing...

the BS smear of the world ending of in 2012?

Possibilities noted of "State of National Security"..

17 other hurricanes previous to make this one Sandy??? WOOOooooow... (flava flav style)

Please someone calm my nerves...

the authorities did an unusually outstanding job warning the public in advance; it was like several days' warning.

in light of this thread, I think there may be a possibility they have information either from

1. time traveler
   
2. extremely powerful clairvoyant/psychic
   

there's no way around it.

this could've been hell of a lot worse

a lot of people dodged the bullet; no, make that a nuke

Originally posted by AnonLover
Starred and FLAGGED!!! Nobody is crying in outrage or FEAR?!?!?!?! I knew nothing of the drill... AND STILL i came to this conclusion. This conclusion came to me as hard as any other epiphany I have had in my life.

-The New Yorkers there are locked in. They CANNOT leave and centers with 'help' are there and already setting up
-There talking about setting up "centers" in NYC.
-On the news they justified windows being blown out.
-And when have you EVER known them shutting down such an large region with road blocks to Pennsylvania!!!!! -------- Recently the cable just went off for a moment in the 'deciding state', could that be to final test the national emergency system that was introduced last year or so? Listen how the media is advising the citizens to "embrace" their 'help' that is going 'provided' to them. How the 'elderly' need THIS protection! THEY SHUT DOWN NYSE... come on!!!!! boots could be deployed to ALL major us cities within hours...

Light bulb turn'd da eff on!!!

Remember all of the forums that got no love and spoke of an event???

Whats going to happen to us? Is it to late to leave?

The economy crashing...

the BS smear of the world ending of in 2012?

Possibilities noted of "State of National Security"..

17 other hurricanes previous to make this one Sandy??? WOOOooooow... (flava flav style)

Please someone calm my nerves...

edit on 29-10-2012 by AnonLover because: (no reason given)

Yeah I feel ya.
Why would THIS need to be a distraction for some other false flag. This is the October Surprise as was stated on an MSNBC show yesterday.

There are a lot of agendas being served. Yet, I get the sense that a lot of people are "Sandy'ed" out already and in another day or two, threads will dwindle to maybe one or so.

Speaking of which, I think even the name is a meme. Whenever they show the 'damage' to NJ beaches, what they are showing is sand far inland. Too far inland for it to be driven there naturally, no matter what tide surge.
I saw Al Roker standing on what he said was a pool at some 50's looking era motor court style motel.
It was completely filled with SAND. Why? How would a pool be filled with only sand and NO SEAWATER.
It looked like it was being covered by sand intentionally as the building next to it had NO sand piled up beside it.
None of the buildings did.

So, I went hmmm. I started looking into the land along the beach from Point Pleasant down to Cape May.
Cape May I should mention, as well as Atlantic City have conflicting reports of damage done.

Two reporters said they escaped nearly unscathed! Why would a storm be so selective as to wash away a Boardwalk and cause damage and then where the high priced casinos and resorts have NO DAMAGE.

Anyway, in looking at real estate in the area, for a town of 5,000 people, there was a disproportionate amount for sale and under forclosure already.

And to have my most elaborate tin foil hat atop my head, I would say this has been in the planning for quite some time. I think Jersey Shore TV show was a meme in itself.
Who would have cared about this area nearly as much had this show not been a dubious MTV hit?
I noted today how much the reporters mentioned oh you may have seen this on the Jersey Shore reality tv show.
You may recognize that from it...and so on.

reply to post by reject


They generally have several paths for a hurricane a week or more ahead. As time goes on, and they get better models of what the jet stream and surrounding winds do, they refine those models.

The biggest tool in refining them are the aircraft that fly around the storm. The NOAA, flies a P-3 that occasionally goes into the storm, a Gulfstream IV that flies above and around it. NASA occasionally flies an ER-2 over the storm. And the USAF Reserve has the guys with cojones of steel, that fly the WC-130Js through the storm repeatedly per flight. They go through up to 10-12 times, crisscrossing the eye from multiple directions dropping radiosondes, that measure the pressure, and wind speeds.

I've seen them come back with engines shut down, wire antennas snapped and wrapped around the airplane, and paint missing from the rain hammering them. The crew got off, preflighted another bird, and went back out as soon as they were legally able to. They're crazy, but they've probably saved an uncountable number of lives with the data that they collect on each flight.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by reject

 

They generally have several paths for a hurricane a week or more ahead. As time goes on, and they get better models of what the jet stream and surrounding winds do, they refine those models.

The biggest tool in refining them are the aircraft that fly around the storm. The NOAA, flies a P-3 that occasionally goes into the storm, a Gulfstream IV that flies above and around it. NASA occasionally flies an ER-2 over the storm. And the USAF Reserve has the guys with cojones of steel, that fly the WC-130Js through the storm repeatedly per flight. They go through up to 10-12 times, crisscrossing the eye from multiple directions dropping radiosondes, that measure the pressure, and wind speeds.

I've seen them come back with engines shut down, wire antennas snapped and wrapped around the airplane, and paint missing from the rain hammering them. The crew got off, preflighted another bird, and went back out as soon as they were legally able to. They're crazy, but they've probably saved an uncountable number of lives with the data that they collect on each flight.

But, what if they totally change the rationale?
For instance, today on TWC, one of the storm experts decided that the viewers needed more of an explanation how a Tropical Storm/Cat 1 hurricane became a superstorm.
He countermanded the original premise of this being joined by a NorEaster and said that a Low Pressure system out of the West with cold air from Canada wrapped around it.

How do you model anything if you are going to change the weather rationale after the fact? There was NO MENTION of any stalled Arctic Air mass off the Northeast of the US and reverse Jet Stream playing any role whatsoever. Now.

reply to post by PaperbackWriter


The jet stream always plays a role. It's one of the factors that steers the storm. That's why they fly the ER-2 and GIV over the storm, to see what the jet stream is doing so they can refine their models.

As for Sandy, they're not revising anything. A nor'easter is basically a super sized low pressure system, similar to a hurricane. Sandy joined with this one, and it wrapped around her, and helped slow and steer her, as well as strengthen her. She joined with the nor'easter (low pressure system), and the jet stream dipped lower than normal from Canada (arctic front), which allowed her to go where she did.

The two most damaging parts of the storm were the low pressure system, and the hurricane. The jet stream didn't really play a role in her strength, or the damage, just in steering her, so that she came ashore where she did.

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He countermanded the original premise of this being joined by a NorEaster and said that a Low Pressure system out of the West with cold air from Canada wrapped around it.

That is the way it has always been described.

From the 24th:

At the same time, an upper level trough is approaching from the west and the interactions between the two will cause Sandy to morph into a hybrid storm, expand, and intensify rapidly. The National Weather Service is doing something very rare: adding more radionsonde (weather balloon) launches (four times a day instead of twice day)...a very wise investment.

cliffmass.blogspot.com...

abcnews.go.com...

Here's blatant evidence that the hidden controllers WANT us to know they CREATED Hurricane Sandy with their weather weaponry, that's why they named it Frankenstorm in the first place. Last night's episode of "American Horror Story" was called "Nor'easter," in your face you coincidence theorists! Not to mention the fact that the episode title "Nor'EASTER" refers to the same Ishtar/Semiramis/Isis programming we're exposed to on an ongoing basis: collider.com...