New Leaked Audio; Romney: Tell your employees how to vote

You are beating a dead horse my friend.

The lots have been drawn. No one is going to change their opinion no matter how despicable one can make either candidate look.

People have completely lost their minds this election. Decency and humanity has been tossed out the window and the wars of philosophy and class have started. It's madness and no one cares enough about the "Idea" that is this great experiment...our Constitutional Republic...to stop and think. Common sense and critical thinking have left the building long ago.

It's only a matter of time till this whole charade melts down anyway...just as they started planning nearly a century ago.

This country will be fragmented. The primary landholder of each state will be a "new" baron and someone...who we don't know but I am sure someone does...will be our new "King" or "Emporer" or whatever. The Barons will run a feudalistic based "state" and will collect taxes which they send to the new "ruler". This is how they plan on dealing with the ever growing numbers of the poor. There will probably be some "freemen" but probably only those that are multi-lingual and can carry out trade with foreign countries/companies. Everyone else will be a serf on the "Baron's" property where you will scratch out an existence and pay the Lion's share of your effort to your Baron.

Originally posted by poloblack

Originally posted by neo96
So the vilification of Romney continues, oh well it's not like they get union thugs and use intimidation tactics to get the other guys in office.

That like "never happens".

Not just screw Romney. No. Screw them ALL, because in actuality, none of them in D.C. gives a damn about you. Isn't that quite apparent by now???

Yup. And if this goes down:

www.marketwatch.com...

we'll have no need for anything but a corporate lockstep mcjob. A world fascist police force keeping tabs on every stitch of material wealth, which still belongs to some corporation, which you'll not be allowed to turn back into cash w/o permission from a corporation. This is huge. Even flea markets, garage sales, will be over run with cops.

Let's see how this one pans out, shall we? If it goes the way they want it to~by 'they' I mean ALL politicians who have bunker reservations, then it will have accomplished what fascists can only dream of, in terms of sweeping legal invasive powers. No president could pull such a stunt, and it it geared to create an economic stranglehold on the populace, no mistake.

reply to post by 3chainz

Romney may be terrible, Obama may be terrible, I don't care any more. But please stop spreading the silliness of the miners being forced to attend.

Miners Ask President Obama To Stop the ‘Absolute Lies’

October 13, 2012

By CASEY JUNKINS - Staff Writer , The Intelligencer / Wheeling News-Register

BEALLSVILLE - Coal miners at the American Energy Corp. Century Mine said they want President Barack Obama to stop what they term "the war on coal" - and to stop spreading "mistruths" about them.

Miners gathered Friday afternoon to express their opposition to Obama's energy and environmental policies, which they believe threaten their jobs. Miner Mitch Miracle read aloud a letter the miners mailed to Obama that outlines some of their concerns.

The miners said Obama's campaign team is running ads filled with "blatantly false" statements about the miners regarding their participation in Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's August campaign stop at the Century Mine. These ads assert that the miners were forced to attend the event by the mine's owner, Robert Murray.

"There are numerous false statements and absolute lies concerning our participation in this event, mostly started by a local 'shock jock' radio host," the miners' letter to Obama states. "Why would you (Obama) lie about the 500 working miners who have signed this letter? We, the employees of the Century Mine would request you immediately stop these false ads."

This summer, Murray Energy Corp., parent company of the Beallsville mine, cut or relocated 56 workers with the closure of the Red Bird West mine near Brilliant. Murray also cut 29 mining jobs from The Ohio Valley Coal Co.'s Powhatan No. 6 Mine. All of this was done, Robert Murray said, because of Obama's "war on coal."

Murray then hosted the Romney campaign stop in Beallsville in August, during which many miners appeared behind Romney as the former Massachusetts governor spoke about the need to protect coal mining jobs. In response to the assertion some have made about the miners being forced to appear with Romney, the miners made several points on Friday:

- No employee was forced to attend the event.

- There were no attendance records taken for hourly employees.

- There were absolutely no penalties or reprimands to those who did not attend.

- Due to security concerns for the Romney campaign, there was a list for transportation purposes.

- They were "honored" to host Romney at the mine.

As for anyone who claims the miners were forced to attend, those on-site Friday said these assertions probably came from "discharged or disgruntled former employees."

www.theintelligencer.net...

Originally posted by 3chainz

Secret recordings have not been kind to Romney. The presidential candidate just began recovering from secretly recorded video in a Boca Raton $50,000 per plate fundraiser, where Romney was caught insulting 47% of voters and wishing he could capitalize on a more authentically Mexican father. Immediately following the release, he began suffering backlash, even among his own party members.

Now, he’s caught on audio asking business owners to tell employees who to vote for, urging them to tell their subordinates how their jobs might be affected by voting against company interests.

“I hope you make it very clear to your employees what you believe is in the best interest of your enterprise and therefore their job and their future in the upcoming elections. And whether you agree with me or you agree with President Obama, or whatever your political view, I hope — I hope you pass those along to your employees. Nothing illegal about you talking to your employees about what you believe is best for the business, because I think that will figure into their election decision, their voting decision and of course doing that with your family and your kids as well.”

www.examiner.com...

You know, just, pretty much insinuate your employees how to vote if they want to keep their job. Fear monger as much as possible, just lightly extort them.. It isn't illegal as long as you use the right words. Let them know how how important you are as a "job creator" and that they should know their place and worship you. It's not like consumers don't create jobs...ONLY you o "job creator", your opinion is the one that matters.

It's a shame peasants have a right to vote anyway. So what if they are hungry and have to live off food stamps, I'm not trying to pay them a living wage. They can go dumpster dive or whatever...social programs need to get cut anyway, I need more corporate welfare.

edit on 18-10-2012 by 3chainz because: (no reason given)

Hey %47 .. Did we forget about Obamas secret taping....OH YEH that's right, You and the other %47 dont care and are assisting with the destruction of the country.

We call those drones..Traitors you know.

What do you guys expect?

Romney is a part of the real elite (not the contrived elite)

He has never had to struggle to survive a day in his life, all his life, "the help" have been there
for him to use.

He reeks of entitlement

Originally posted by campanionator
What do you guys expect?

Romney is a part of the real elite (not the contrived elite)

He has never had to struggle to survive a day in his life, all his life, "the help" have been there
for him to use.

He reeks of entitlement

edit on 18-10-2012 by campanionator because: (no reason given)

Obama is a part of the real elite (not the contrived elite)

He has never had to struggle to survive a day in his life, all his life, "the help" have been there
for him to use.

He reeks of entitlement

fixed that for you

Originally posted by LeoStarchild


Obama is a part of the real elite (not the contrived elite)

He has never had to struggle to survive a day in his life, all his life, "the help" have been there
for him to use.

He reeks of entitlement

fixed that for you

Urrrr

Duurrrrr

Romney was born to the lap of luxury, he got a free ticket into the best schools based upon his family name,
his father bank rolled his business endeavors and he got to utilize his family name at every turn


Obama wasn't born with a silver spoon, that's your guy

"Buffy, bring me my monocle!"

yeah, what a terrible thing to say.

a civilized person would simply tweet about how they are going to murder somebody if they win.

but how dare somebody encourage their supporters to encourage others to vote for them too!

maybe romney should have just publicly told jews that obama wanted to put them in an oven or something? that seems to be more lefty style.

the liberal lefties are terrified and see the defeat coming so they have to panic come up with crap like this. good sign for romney.

reply to post by campanionator

I'm a little tired and not thinking too clearly, so please forgive me.

Romney is a part of the real elite (not the contrived elite)

He has never had to struggle to survive a day in his life, all his life, "the help" have been there
for him to use.

He reeks of entitlement

I understood that his dad was born in Chihuahua, Mexico and never attended college. They had to live on welfare during the Depression. Was George Romney ever part of the "real elite?" If so, he rose to that position from absolute zero. How did Mitt make it, if his dad wasn't elite? Is money all it takes? He certainly didn't get into college as a "legacy."

Maybe I'm not making sense, but it makes sense to me.

Originally posted by neo96
So the vilification of Romney continues, oh well it's not like they get union thugs and use intimidation tactics to get the other guys in office.

That like "never happens".

pot meet kettle,
hi keetle im a pot
hi pot im a kettle

obama bad romney good
romney bad obama good

are you saying its ok to use strong arm tactics?
if the other side does?



so when unions do this its "bad" but when ceos do it its good?

cognitive disodence much?

two wrongs dont make a right

xploder

reply to post by Jeremiah65

You're absolutely right about one thing. The dies have been cast and the choices made. I don't even believe in the myth of an large % of undecided. Not in THIS race at just over 2 weeks out. Whoever is still undecided probably needs to just stay home and leave voting to people just a little more sure of their own values and how those relate to the choices before us.

No question tho...there is nothing to be further gained by the petty Gotcha games and hate dished between normal people. Absolutely no one is likely to change anyone's mind. Not now...so the only thing being gained at this point, for those who would call it a gain, is hard feelings and "scored points" against the other side.

Ahhh...just over 2 weeks...and it can all end. Well, at least THIS phase of it ends entirely. That's plenty to be looking forward to with bells on, given how THIS cycle has gone.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Boy you got that straight! I will be so freaking happy when this donkey and elephant show are over!

Gary Johnson isn't going to win and I know that. At this point, I just want this crap to end.

reply to post by LeoStarchild


Um no, Obama was not born into extreme wealth. He was born and raised middle class. He actually had multiple real jobs and had to take out loans to go to college. Obama still doesn't have enough money to be an elite. He's worth like what? 12 million.

Pleasee tell me how many of the actual elites started out as community organizers in the most ghetto-ist parts of Chicago.

Answer; none. They are usually born rich and go onto big money jobs out of college...

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by Jeremiah65

 

You're absolutely right about one thing. The dies have been cast and the choices made. I don't even believe in the myth of an large % of undecided. Not in THIS race at just over 2 weeks out. Whoever is still undecided probably needs to just stay home and leave voting to people just a little more sure of their own values and how those relate to the choices before us.

No question tho...there is nothing to be further gained by the petty Gotcha games and hate dished between normal people. Absolutely no one is likely to change anyone's mind. Not now...so the only thing being gained at this point, for those who would call it a gain, is hard feelings and "scored points" against the other side.

Ahhh...just over 2 weeks...and it can all end. Well, at least THIS phase of it ends entirely. That's plenty to be looking forward to with bells on, given how THIS cycle has gone.

All this BS we're seeing is why I think there needs to be three things done immediately to fix the US...

1. No more corporate funding of any politician or party.
2. No more promotion, ads, tours and party speeches or rallies leading up to an election.
3. Three debates to be televised where each will give their plan to change the country.

That's it, that's all that needs to be done. Then all this BS you Americans call an election won't be the incredibly divisive and dangerous thing it now is.

These people shouldn't need billions in funding. It doesn't cost money to come up with solutions to a problem and tell people those solutions. This is a game that has gotten out of control, and it's why things are going to just get worse in the coming weeks too.

reply to post by detachedindividual

1. No more corporate funding of any politician or party.
2. No more promotion, ads, tours and party speeches or rallies leading up to an election.
3. Three debates to be televised where each will give their plan to change the country.

Interesting. Number 1 has been ruled Constitutional. Number 2 is unconstitutional on it's face. And Number 3 would at least be a logistical nightmare, if it was even possible in the first place.

Everyone else will be a serf on the "Baron's" property where you will scratch out an existence and pay the Lion's share of your effort to your Baron

I'm glad someone else finally realized this, I've been saying it for years.

What do people think will happen when Republicans get rid of education, minimum wage, social security, medicare, medicaid, healthcare and government jobs (the only ones left with benefits and retirement)?

Didn't read the post, just watched the video.

Sorry OP, this is petty and lame.. Encouraging employes is no different than an Ad or encouraging family. It is certainly not a threat.

reply to post by detachedindividual


I agree 110% on #1. The Supremes said No on banning it, but as usual to the Super Court, they were pretty specific in the wording too. I see a very easy (in process) way around it. It'll just be something no one in Washington to either side will even raise in a joke. People might run with it... My solution is to outright ban *ALL* private funding and contributions to *ALL* Candidates on the National level. No exception and no cute little tricks to 'give something' but 'not give something' like they all do now.

#2.. Hmm... I don't see how that works. Most of the time lately, the President has been a person the nation didn't really know. The ads and campaign are necessary to learn much about them. Who pays for it is the problem in my view. In a nation where trillions are tossed around like it's nothing special, a few billion to cover all congressional races AND the Presidential race combined isn't much to remove the stench of corruption by contribution, eh?

^^ A note on that... I'd also agree with how some other nations do this and ban ALL ads of any kind within a period before voting. Say...the end of Sept is it except for debates.

#3 I love.... I assume you mean hear their OWN plan..in their OWN words..and not vague references to what could mean almost anything, but force specifics out of them as a matter of the format itself. They have to. Period. That would be more productive than all the ads and debates we have now combined.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

Dear Wrabbit2000,

Perhaps I'm carrying some baggage from another thread, but I'm assuming that the plan would include ALL presidential candidates. I don't think Gary Johnson would be excluded, how about the Green Party? Perhaps the Constitutional Party, the Socialist Party, and the CPUSA? There are currently 22 parties on the ballot in at least one state. Imagine what happens if we announce that anybody who wants to run gets three hours of national airtime.

Oh and for the Court? I thought Buckley v. Valejo held that political contributions were free speech protected.

With respect,
Charles1952

reply to post by charles1952

Watch for a new thread from me tonight or tomorrow night on this topic. (Private funding of national campaigns and how it would work) Heck, I've talked about it enough... I might as well carry on through and play out the idea for how it could work in reality.

Besides... Honestly? You never ask easy stuff... lol. I can't make a reply worth your questions and not blow so far off-topic here as to almost invite one of those nice moderators to give me a talking-to.